In a message dated 9/11/2007 6:37:34 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [log in to unmask] writes:
Whether or not Gretchen's students can now produce more "accurate grammar" would be, I think, irrelevant, at least in the short term. Very real benefits will be ignored if they are not thought of as valuable goals in their own right.
Craig and Ron,
 
When I first started teaching (oh, those dear dead decades ago), my school used Warriners. We grimly taught grammar three hours a week.  The kids hated it.  Personally, I didn't mind it; it was easy to teach and test, and the scope and sequence was clear.  I kept seeing, however, the same errors in writing over and over, regardless of what I had taught in the grammar class.
 
I did some research and kept up on it, to find that the experts couldn't agree on the value of teaching grammar as a way to improve writing.  I became a disciple of Weaver and Noden, et al.  Then my kids seemed better at error detection, but knew very little about language.  I complained loudly and vigorously to this list and others about the lack of a coherent grammar program for middle school.
 
People tired of that quickly. Then a lightening strike - why, one gentleman inquired irascibly, did I insist that teaching grammar improve writing? Why couldn't we teach grammar for the sake of grammar?  Just because students should know something about their own language?  Hmmm. . . .
 
That's where this class is coming from,  I honestly don't care if the results are testable and  sustainable.  I care, short-term and immediately, that my students chose this class, love this class, are learning more than they have ever been able to about language (and yes, that part is measurable - I had most of them last year, and their grades on the tests in my elective are worlds apart from last year. I do realize that the sample size is ridiculous, however!).  They are excited and begging me to teach areas that stumped them last year.  That alone seems a worthy goal to me.
 
Thanks,
Gretchen
 
 
 
 




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