Edmond’s discussion of the phonaesthetics of these words addresses part of Scott’s question.  The larger class of ideophones, which includes the examples discussed so far, doesn’t concern itself with the origins of the words.  And they are varied.  Carroll was undoubtedly playing with the name of the knife, itself ideophonic.  Willy-nilly comes from Latin vole-nole “will-won’t”.  Hurdy-gurdy is purely onomatopoeic.  Another Carroll coinage, chortle, is an onomatopoeic blend of chuckle and snort.  

 

Herb

 

 

Listmates,

One interpretation of the sound "snicker-snack" is that it is the sound a snicker-snee (a large knife) makes.  Would this change the interpretation of the term?

 

Scott Woods

On Nov 25, 2007, at 10:32 AM, Kathi Bethell wrote:


The question of onomotopoeia came up in a class discussion this past week. A student questioned the form class of "Snicker-snack" (as in "the vorpal blade went snicker-snack!"). We moved on to animal sounds, comic book sound effects (Pow! Zap! Kerplunk!) and thoroughly amused and confused ourselves.

The cow says "moo."
The mooing cows moved toward the barn.
The cow smiled mooily (okay, we were goofing off by then).

It's easy to identify the verbs, adjectives, adverbs - but what are the onomotopoetic words themselves? Although moo can be a noun (the cow had a loud moo), what is snicker-snack?

Kathleen Bethell


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