Carol, It turns out I don't have your email address. Please get in touch with me. Martha >Carol, > >I hope you succeed in finding a course that treats grammar in ways >that are relevant to the composition classroom. You put your finger >on one of the curricular gaps in linguistics, English, and >composition programs, the absence of just such courses. I've taught >both of the courses you mention WCU is offering, and I'm not sure >either is what you're looking for, given the descriptions you >provide. An Intro Linguistics course will not address pedagogy, >composition, or much of English grammar. It has too many other >topics it has to cover to prepare students for more advanced courses >in linguistics. A "Structure of Modern English" course will present >an anatomy of English syntactic structures, possibly some material >on English word formation, and maybe even some English phonology, >although that tends to be neglected. It will likely be a very >technical grammar course drawing heavily on linguistic concepts. It >will almost certainly not deal with pedagogy or composition. > >The sort of course you seek is one a number of us have taught, and >Martha Koln has written a superb text for it, her Rhetorical >Grammar, which a lot of us have studied and have used as a text in >our own classes. State College is a bit of a commute from >Philadelphia, but I wonder if Martha or one of her colleagues will >be offering such a course this summer. > >All the best! > >Herb > >From: Assembly for the Teaching of English Grammar >[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Carol Morrison >Sent: 2008-01-26 09:31 >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: Re: Summer Courses/Programs in Grammar > >Dear Fellow ATEG Members, >I am interested in taking a course in grammar at a local college or >university this summer. >Does anyone happen to know of a college or university in the >Philadelphia area that might be offering a grammar class >or workshop for teachers? West Chester University is offering Intro. >to Linguistics: "basic concepts of language description, >classification, change, reconstruction, dialectology, and >sociolinguistics" and Structure of Modern English: "a detailed >analysis of the modern descriptive approach to the study of English >grammar and how it compares with the traditional approach." >Would anyone be able to recommend either of those courses >or something else? I would like to increase my knowledge in the >type of grammar that could possibly be applied to the composition >classroom, a "writer's grammar." Maybe taking both of the courses >would be beneficial, though I'm not sure that I have the time. Thank >you for your time and possible feedback. >Carol Morrison > >Scott <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > >Although I use Joo's Five clocks quite literally, I do not speak to my >cousins (also farm born but who stayed on the farm) in the same idiolect >that I would use in a speech to a general audience, or in talking with >fellow teachers at a teacher's conference, or in talking to colleagues >at a professional congress/conference, or in giving a lecture at such an >event. >It should be noted that Formal English is within the scope of most >non-English-speaking participants in international conferences; casual >English is not. When--and only when--I am speaking to or writing an article >for >highly literate colleagues do I proudly bear the banner of pedantry. My >formal idiolect in such cases is quite strict. >In case you wonder, my email to ATEG is more casual than it would be for >speaking to a general audience--much as if I were speaking with friends >in general conversation--a good group makes you feel that way. >Scott Catledge > >I wonder whether...I've fallen into the old grammar pedant's trap of trying >to foist my idiolect on the universe. >> >>> Thanks, er, muchly, >>> Bill Spruiell > >To join or leave this LISTSERV list, please visit the list's web interface at: >http://listserv.muohio.edu/archives/ateg.html >and select "Join or leave the list" > >Visit ATEG's web site at http://ateg.org/ > > > > >Never miss a thing. ><http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=51438/*http:/www.yahoo.com/r/hs>Make >Yahoo your homepage. To join or leave this LISTSERV list, please >visit the list's web interface at: >http://listserv.muohio.edu/archives/ateg.html and select "Join or >leave the list" >Visit ATEG's web site at http://ateg.org/ >To join or leave this LISTSERV list, please visit the list's web >interface at: http://listserv.muohio.edu/archives/ateg.html and >select "Join or leave the list" >Visit ATEG's web site at http://ateg.org/ To join or leave this LISTSERV list, please visit the list's web interface at: http://listserv.muohio.edu/archives/ateg.html and select "Join or leave the list" Visit ATEG's web site at http://ateg.org/