Carol,

It turns out I don't have your email address. Please get in touch with me.

Martha

>Carol,
>
>I hope you succeed in finding a course that treats grammar in ways 
>that are relevant to the composition classroom.  You put your finger 
>on one of the curricular gaps in linguistics, English, and 
>composition programs, the absence of just such courses.  I've taught 
>both of the courses you mention WCU is offering, and I'm not sure 
>either is what you're looking for, given the descriptions you 
>provide.  An Intro Linguistics course will not address pedagogy, 
>composition, or much of English grammar.  It has too many other 
>topics it has to cover to prepare students for more advanced courses 
>in linguistics.  A "Structure of Modern English" course will present 
>an anatomy of English syntactic structures, possibly some material 
>on English word formation, and maybe even some English phonology, 
>although that tends to be neglected.  It will likely be a very 
>technical grammar course drawing heavily on linguistic concepts.  It 
>will almost certainly not deal with pedagogy or composition.
>
>The sort of course you seek is one a number of us have taught, and 
>Martha Koln has written a superb text for it, her Rhetorical 
>Grammar, which a lot of us have studied and have used as a text in 
>our own classes.  State College is a bit of a commute from 
>Philadelphia, but I wonder if Martha or one of her colleagues will 
>be offering such a course this summer.
>
>All the best!
>
>Herb
>
>From: Assembly for the Teaching of English Grammar 
>[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Carol Morrison
>Sent: 2008-01-26 09:31
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: Summer Courses/Programs in Grammar
>
>Dear Fellow ATEG Members,
>I am interested in taking a course in grammar at a local college or 
>university this summer.
>Does anyone happen to know of a college or university in the 
>Philadelphia area that might be offering a grammar class 
>or workshop for teachers? West Chester University is offering Intro. 
>to Linguistics: "basic concepts of language description, 
>classification, change, reconstruction, dialectology, and 
>sociolinguistics" and Structure of Modern English: "a detailed 
>analysis of the modern descriptive approach to the study of English 
>grammar and how it compares with the traditional approach." 
>Would anyone be able to recommend either of those courses 
>or something else? I would like to increase my knowledge in the 
>type of grammar that could possibly be applied to the composition 
>classroom, a "writer's grammar." Maybe taking both of the courses 
>would be beneficial, though I'm not sure that I have the time. Thank 
>you for your time and possible feedback.
>Carol Morrison 
>
>Scott <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>Although I use Joo's Five clocks quite literally, I do not speak to my
>cousins (also farm born but who stayed on the farm) in the same idiolect
>that I would use in a speech to a general audience, or in talking with
>fellow teachers at a teacher's conference, or in talking to colleagues
>at a professional congress/conference, or in giving a lecture at such an
>event.
>It should be noted that Formal English is within the scope of most
>non-English-speaking participants in international conferences; casual
>English is not. When--and only when--I am speaking to or writing an article
>for
>highly literate colleagues do I proudly bear the banner of pedantry. My
>formal idiolect in such cases is quite strict.
>In case you wonder, my email to ATEG is more casual than it would be for
>speaking to a general audience--much as if I were speaking with friends
>in general conversation--a good group makes you feel that way.
>Scott Catledge
>
>I wonder whether...I've fallen into the old grammar pedant's trap of trying
>to foist my idiolect on the universe.
>>
>>>  Thanks, er, muchly,
>>>  Bill Spruiell
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