After suggesting to Brad that he provide some context for his
sentences, which he rejected, I haven’t paid much attention to what he’s
posted. He has, however posted a persistent query as to whether the past
perfect is the past of the present perfect. Asked in this way, it’s
rather like asking, “Is the cat black?” in a context where there’s
no cat around. The only legitimate answer to such a questions is “There’s
no way to know.” I suspect he doesn’t see the subtlety of
tense, aspect, and, probably, modality and how context-dependent the choices
among them are, not to mention how much they may depend on the knowledge and
beliefs of the speaker. The fact that the sentences are not original to
him, as he has stated more than once, does not relieve him of the
responsibility to know what it is he’s surveying and to recast the survey
so that it has some chance of producing useful data. Unfortunately, we
have no idea what Brad wants to do with this information, which is usually
enough in itself to make me reluctant to answer. Brad has asked that we
not lecture him, but I don’t know how to help him make his survey
meaningful without doing some explaining.
Herb
From: Assembly for the
Teaching of English Grammar [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Jane
Saral
Sent: 2008-02-13 14:10
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Brad Johnston's Surveys
Dear Gram Negative,
Yipes. Who's raving?
I have just figured that there is method in his madness that
he will ultimately reveal.
In the meantime, you might exercise your right to hit the
delete button.
Jane Saral
On Feb 13, 2008 12:33 PM, Gram Marian <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Hey Brad...(2) things:
1) You are purposely trying to insult the members of this
listserv with your stupid questions.
-OR-
2) You are so stupid that you actually think your questions
are worth answering.
Either way, your continued presence on this list is to say
the least ANNOYING, unless, that is, you can actually come up with something
interesting and constructive to say. This list is a forum for people who are
actually interested in learning about grammar and language, not a dumping site
for the ravings of an apparent lunatic.
Gram Marian
PS. "a", "e", "i",
"o" and "u" are considered vowel sounds in the English
language, not consonants, which perhaps could be your first lesson in English
grammar.
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