"Pol Pot?" What a horrible name; the name itself sounds heinous. I wonder how much prejudging or prejudicing, if any, goes on with the names of the candidates. I know this sounds awful, but I just can't imagine a "President Huckabee". The name alongside the title of "President" doesn't conjure up images of a commander and chief (for me, anyway). Just a thought.
 
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Having heard every president--and most opponents--from FDR to George II, the
only one that I could listen to without going 'yeccchhh' was Ronald Reagan.
FDR was a distant second. Truman would be third; Nixon, fourth; George I,
fifth. Kennedy, Carter, Clinton, Gore, George II are products of schools
in which anything goes: how can someone's speech be incorrect? It's his (or
her) speech, after all.
Asking a choice among McCain, Obama, Clinton, Romney is like asking a
freedom lover to choose among Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin, or Pol Pot.
I'd have to say Romney.
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Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 07:17:38 -0800
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I am curious to see which of the candidates has the best grammar and who is
the most well-spoken. I will be listening attentively to upcoming speeches,
interviews, and press conferences. It would be nice to have a president who
has a strong command of the English language. That person will get my vote
(maybe). Any favorites?
CLM
"STAHLKE, HERBERT F" <[log in to unmask]>wrote:
Bill,

There's also the question of its pronunciation. Should it rhyme with
"teak" or with "tech". Of course in OE it would have rhymed with
"rack." I suspect the word exists today largely in formulaic
utterances.

Herb

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Sent: 2008-02-01 14:08
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Subject: Re: Begging the question (3)

"Wrought" is an old past participle of "work"; According to the OED,
"wrought havoc" is actually the past tense of "work havoc," not "wreak
havoc." I'm not sure "wreak" has a surviving past or past participle
form. Wreaked? Wrook?

Bill Spruiell
Dept. of English
Central Michigan University


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Is 'wrought' the past participle of 'wreak' or 'work'? My dictionaries
are having a conflict.

Janet Castilleja

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Sorry, Paul! Too rapid reading of emails was the cause.

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I am curious to see which of the candidates has the best grammar and
who is the most well-spoken. I will be listening attentively to upcoming
speeches, interviews, and press conferences. It would be nice to have a
president who has a strong command of the English language. That person will
get my vote (maybe). Any favorites?
CLM
"STAHLKE,
HERBERT F" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT:
#1010ff 2px solid">Bill,

There's also the question of its
pronunciation. Should it rhyme with
"teak" or with "tech". Of course in
OE it would have rhymed with
"rack." I suspect the word exists today
largely in formulaic
utterances.

Herb

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Subject: Re: Begging the question
(3)

"Wrought" is an old past participle of "work"; According to the
OED,
"wrought havoc" is actually the past tense of "work havoc," not
"wreak
havoc." I'm not sure "wreak" has a surviving past or past
participle
form. Wreaked? Wrook?

Bill Spruiell
Dept. of
English
Central Michigan University


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Is
'wrought' the past participle of 'wreak' or 'work'? My dictionaries
are
having a conflict.

Janet Castilleja

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Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 08:58:10 -0700
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Purely from a public speaking standpoint, all three do fairly well. McCain
strives for an "everyman" approach, Clinton goes for "Powerful Woman" in her
voice, and Obama is leaning toward an almost call-and-response flavor. I
did hear Obama promise to pronounce the word "nuclear" as.well."nuclear,"
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I am curious to see which of the candidates has the best grammar and who is
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CLM




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