Had "had had" had a chance with Brad, the tense would be a viable option. Clinton Atchley, Ph.D. Associate Professor of English Box 7652 1100 Henderson Street Henderson State University Arkadelphia, AR 71999 Phone: 870.230.5276 Email: [log in to unmask] Web: http://www.hsu.edu/atchlec To join or leave this LISTSERV list, please visit the list's web interface at: http://listserv.muohio.edu/archives/ateg.html and select "Join or leave the list" Visit ATEG's web site at http://ateg.org/