Hi This is my bible (although I do consult other reference grammars). A Comprehensive Grammar of the English Language Quirk, Greenbaum, Leech, & Svartik Janet -----Original Message----- From: Assembly for the Teaching of English Grammar [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of diane skinner Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 11:37 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Happen to (V) -- quasimodal? Please tell me which reference are you using? Thanks, Diane On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 1:43 PM, Castilleja, Janet <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > > > > 'happen to' is on my list of semi-auxiliaries from Quirk, et al. > > > > Janet > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Assembly for the Teaching of English Grammar > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Spruiell, William C > Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 12:47 PM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Happen to (V) -- quasimodal? > > > > I've been reading this list long enough that every time I have a question, I > get this sneaking suspicion that it's been discussed before and I just can't > find the thread - so apologies if I'm reheating leftovers here. > > > > In one of my grammar classes, a student asked what to do with a sentence > like, "I happened to look up right at that moment." My reflex is to treat > "happen to" the same way I'd treat "have to," "going to" and "ought to" - as > a kind of modal-like combination. I'd feel better about that analysis, > though, if I had some kind of test or set of tests I could use to identify > quasimodals (other than instinct; I have this gut feeling that instinct will > get me in trouble). > > > > Based on the three "acknowledged quasimodals" I mentioned above, it looks > like one criterion might be based on transitivity. While various forms of > "have" are transitive, there's no sense in which "I have to write a paper" > can be construed as analogous to "I have something"; you can't "ought > something," and you can't "go something" either unless you use the "become" > sense of go, which doesn't seem at play in "going to write a paper," etc. > (also, the "become" version is followed by an adjective or a noun that's > arguably in adjectival function, as in "go bananas"). In constructions that > seem to be drifting toward quasimodal status, but aren't in the official > list (in that traditional grammar treats them as a main verb followed by an > infinitival object), you can set up transitive analogues - "I want to watch > a movie" // "I want something"; "I started to watch a movie" // "I started > something." You can't "happen something," of course, so that supports > treating "happens to" as a quasimodal. > > > > Is there a different established way to treat "happens to V"? > > > > Thanks in advance - > > > > Bill Spruiell > > Dept. of English > > Central Michigan University > > To join or leave this LISTSERV list, please visit the list's web interface > at: http://listserv.muohio.edu/archives/ateg.html and select "Join or leave > the list" > > Visit ATEG's web site at http://ateg.org/ To join or leave this LISTSERV > list, please visit the list's web interface at: > http://listserv.muohio.edu/archives/ateg.html and select "Join or leave the > list" > > > Visit ATEG's web site at http://ateg.org/ To join or leave this LISTSERV list, please visit the list's web interface at: http://listserv.muohio.edu/archives/ateg.html and select "Join or leave the list" Visit ATEG's web site at http://ateg.org/ To join or leave this LISTSERV list, please visit the list's web interface at: http://listserv.muohio.edu/archives/ateg.html and select "Join or leave the list" Visit ATEG's web site at http://ateg.org/