I sat next to a lass at Glory Days this evening, watching the Redskins squeak out a 20-17 win. The young lady is in her second year teaching 5th grade, including English. I asked her if the past perfect is taught to 5th graders. Her reply: What's the past perfect? The young man next to her has taught 3rd grade at the same school for five years. He chimed in with, What's the past perfect? 54% of incoming college freshmen need remedial English. .brad.sun.23nov08. To join or leave this LISTSERV list, please visit the list's web interface at: http://listserv.muohio.edu/archives/ateg.html and select "Join or leave the list" Visit ATEG's web site at http://ateg.org/