In my lifetime, progressive causes have been routinely disparaged by the logic evident in Dr. Wright's definition: renounce the general term (and its proponents) by identifying it with an obviously flawed subcategory or remote relative. If you doubt the efficacy of this rhetorical strategy, consider the fate of "liberal." Believe me, my rage at the predominance of conservative politics in this country can easily match Dr. Wright's passionate criticism of romantic idealism. Not only that: I would agree with the criticism, particularly as it applies to educational principles and practices. And for that very reason I object to casting progressives as childish idealists. More passion available upon request. Michael Dee To join or leave this LISTSERV list, please visit the list's web interface at: http://listserv.muohio.edu/archives/ateg.html and select "Join or leave the list" Visit ATEG's web site at http://ateg.org/