Taking a page from Kolln's grammar, I tend to use a separate term ("qualifier") for modifiers that modify other modifiers. For consistency's sake, I then turn around and call the kind of clause under discussion a "qualifying clause," so that it will be parallel to "adjective clause," "noun clause," etc. Although I rather like the generic term "complement clause," I'd have to use that term for noun clauses as well, and there are *some* differences (no wh-clauses in the qualifying type, etc.). Bill Spruiell Dept. of English Central Michigan University -----Original Message----- From: Assembly for the Teaching of English Grammar [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Myers, Marshall Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 5:47 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: What kind of clause is this? Craig, Thanks for your response in explaining the etiology behind these types of clauses. I frankly was at a loss to explain how they arise. Marshall -----Original Message----- From: Assembly for the Teaching of English Grammar [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Craig Hancock Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 3:01 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: What kind of clause is this? Scott (and Marshall), I forgot to say the obvious, which is that these are complements in part because they complement (and are in effect licensed by) certain kinds of adjectives. Generally speaking, modifiers aren't constrained that way. As Marshall points out here, these are sentient (mental, emotional) and the complement clause will give us the source or the nature of the emotion. We also have prepositional phrases that will do that. (eager for. happy for. happy with. sad for. and so on.) We can't say "I am beautiful that you are here". Or that "I am thin to be around you." The fields can't be wet that it rained, but they can be happy that it rained or eager for it (metaphorically feeling.) From a cognitive or functional view (since it has been in discussion), these are highly functional forms, able to expand a feeling or give its roots. Craig Scott, > > Klammer et al. in Analyzing English Grammar discusses this particular > construction and notes that in addition to "happy" lists "glad," "sad," > "angry," "hurt," "confident," "doubtful," "positive," and past participles > functioning adjectively like "disappointed," "distressed,"and "pleased" > take "noun phrases as adjective complements." Pretty unusual stuff, eh? > > Marshall Myers > Eastern Kentucky University > > ________________________________ > From: Assembly for the Teaching of English Grammar > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Scott Woods > Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 11:30 AM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: What kind of clause is this? > > What kind of clause is the underlined part below? I think it is an > adverbial clause modifying happy. Is this reasonable? Are there other > reasonable analyses? > > The boy was very happy that his mother did not see him being such a pig. > > Thanks, > Scott Woods > > > To join or leave this LISTSERV list, please visit the list's web interface > at: http://listserv.muohio.edu/archives/ateg.html and select "Join or > leave the list" > > Visit ATEG's web site at http://ateg.org/ > > To join or leave this LISTSERV list, please visit the list's web interface > at: > http://listserv.muohio.edu/archives/ateg.html > and select "Join or leave the list" > > Visit ATEG's web site at http://ateg.org/ > To join or leave this LISTSERV list, please visit the list's web interface at: http://listserv.muohio.edu/archives/ateg.html and select "Join or leave the list" Visit ATEG's web site at http://ateg.org/ To join or leave this LISTSERV list, please visit the list's web interface at: http://listserv.muohio.edu/archives/ateg.html and select "Join or leave the list" Visit ATEG's web site at http://ateg.org/ To join or leave this LISTSERV list, please visit the list's web interface at: http://listserv.muohio.edu/archives/ateg.html and select "Join or leave the list" Visit ATEG's web site at http://ateg.org/