What an interesting way of characterizing views of grammar that disagree with your own! Craig writes: My own tendency has been to lobby for new ways of looking at grammar, but ATEG has long been an organization made up of people with fairly conservative (not regressive, not by a long shot) views. This was hard on me because I felt I had a lot invested in the project, but would be asked to shut out from the conversation the new possibilities in grammar that excite me the most. **** Of course, there is no hostility in characterizing others views with the term "fairly conservative." Craig, I appreciate such an honest appraisal of others views of the nature of language. Bob Yates, University of Central Missouri To join or leave this LISTSERV list, please visit the list's web interface at: http://listserv.muohio.edu/archives/ateg.html and select "Join or leave the list" Visit ATEG's web site at http://ateg.org/