Craig,

 

I do believe that you have shown that convince has a causative element and that it does not exclude the resultive element.  The first is like: “He convinced us that we should vote for BO.” The second is like “He caused us to believe that BO is the best candidate.” This would clearly make the third example redundant: “He caused us to believe that we should believe that BO is the best candidate.”  At this point my faith is renewed that disciplined paraphrase will bring out the meanings, while possibly degrading stylistic niceties. 

 

Bruce

 

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