John,

 

I’ve used Lester’s book a number of times in a course here for future English teachers. Overall, I’d say there’s one major problem with it, but otherwise it’s extremely good. The problem is that he doesn’t make a clear form/function distinction. I’m not sure why he doesn’t – it could be that he’s trying to stick to the K-12 school grammar tradition, which is understandable, but the lack of that distinction is one of the things that constantly causes problems for anyone trying to teach the material (“You said only nouns could be plural, but in ‘accounts receivable,’ the adjective is”).

 

The book is so good in other respects that I’ve continued to use it, using handouts to deal with the form/function distinction. But, of course, then the students get annoyed because I’m disagreeing with the textbook, and I get annoyed with them because the last thing future teachers should do is view a textbook (or their instructor’s comments!) as Holy Writ.

 

Sincerely,

 

Bill Spruiell

 

From: Assembly for the Teaching of English Grammar [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of John Dews-Alexander
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 8:00 PM
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Subject: Phrasal Verb Overview

 

Greetings, ATEGers!

 

Someone (I believe it was Herb) recently suggested a book to me: Mark Lester's (1990) Grammar in the Classroom. I'm not sure why I haven't discovered this book before, but I quite like it and would suggest it to anyone reviewing grammar texts. Even if you can't use it in your classroom, you and/or your  students might enjoy knowing about it as a reference text. I find Lester's writing to be straightforward and uncluttered. Has anyone actually used this as a classroom text for teachers-in-training? If so, I'd be interested to hear about your experiences.

 

I went to the text specifically to find some more information on phrasal verbs, information that wasn't overly technical for non-linguistic students but also not overly simplified so as to ignore descriptive facts. I thought I'd share here a few of the main points about phrasal verbs that Lester includes.

 

          John turned out the light. (Noun subject+phrasal verb+noun phrase object)

          John turned at the light. (Noun subject+verb+adverbial prepositional phrase)

  

          Say the sentences out loud and notice the stress. In phrasal verbs the preposition is stressed while it is not in the PP.

Hope all the grammar nerds enjoy this as much as I did!

 

Regards,

 

John Alexander

Austin, Texas

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