I just happened to look at White's own use of linking verbs in "Elements," Chapter 5, "An Approach to Style." Here are some of the main verbs in his first paragraph: is, are, are, are, is, is, be, are And here are all the main verbs in paragraph three: is, speak, mean, mean, use, reveal, is, is, is, is, remains Long live "be," we can't write without it. Ed S On Apr 17, 2009, at 10:58 PM, STAHLKE, HERBERT F wrote: > Different types of verb fulfill different functions in discourse, > and, while linking verbs can get overused, just as passive voice > can, they exist in language because language needs them to > communicate effectively. I suspect coaching writers on how to use > linking verbs effectively would produce better writing—and writers— > than banning them. > > Herb > > From: Assembly for the Teaching of English Grammar [mailto:[log in to unmask] > ] On Behalf Of Linda Comerford > Sent: 2009-04-17 19:05 > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: An expert speaks? was ATEG Digest - 14 Apr 2009 to 15 > Apr 2009 (#2009-86) > > Much to my dismay, I used to recommend using adjectives and adverbs > for more colorful writing--until I learned that the two most > powerful parts of speech are the subject and the verb. Now, I > emphasize using active versus linking verbs. When I used to teach > at our local university, one of the professors used to give his > students an assignment of writing a paragraph without any linking > verbs. Although the students struggled with it, they valued their > resulting learning from it. I'm now a true fan of active verbs! > (Ooops, I just noticed I used a contracted form of a linking verb in > my previous sentence.) > > Linda > > > Linda Comerford > Comerford Consulting > 317.786.6404 > [log in to unmask] > [log in to unmask] > www.comerfordconsulting.com > > > > From: Assembly for the Teaching of English Grammar [mailto:[log in to unmask] > ] On Behalf Of Paul E. Doniger > Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 6:44 PM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: An expert speaks? was ATEG Digest - 14 Apr 2009 to 15 > Apr 2009 (#2009-86) > For the record, although I never analyzed this in any statistical or > methodical way, many of my (high school - honors level) students' > papers seem to run into trouble when they get carried away by > adjectives and adverbs (I'm talking about academic, not creative > writing here). I wonder if anyone else has any experience with this. > > > Paul D. > > > "If this were play'd upon a stage now, I could condemn it as an > improbable fiction" (_Twelfth Night_ 3.4.127-128). > > > From: Craig Hancock <[log in to unmask]> > To: [log in to unmask] > Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 9:05:43 AM > Subject: Re: An expert speaks? was ATEG Digest - 14 Apr 2009 to 15 > Apr 2009 (#2009-86) > > Bill, Scott, > If the corpus grammars tell it accurately, writing with nouns and > verbs is good advice for fiction (Biber found a negative correlation > for attributive adjectives), but not for journalism or academic > writing, which build lots of meaning into the noun phrases. Of > course, saying adjectives should be used sparingly is not the same > as saying they are unimportant. The lone adjective may be the most > important word in the sentence. But English teachers especially seem > to equate literacy with literature. > I thought Pullum was a bit arrogant in the review, a bit > disrespectful of the writing teacher's perspective. And it may very > well be that linguists are much to blame for not giving us a > discourse friendly grammar to work with. There's some good advice in > the little book, but enough problems to negate that out. I usually > tell students who own the book not to pay attention to anything but > the style sections. > > Craig > Spruiell, William C wrote: > > Scott: > > > > I've had similar students --- but the advice they need is more > along the > > lines of, "use specific nouns, not fluffy ones." The problem really > > isn't the adjectives and adverbs. And at least some of those > students > > aren't deliberately being verbose, or displaying signs of functional > > illiteracy (they probably know a fair number of highly specific > > nouns...but they're part of the students' passive vocabulary, rather > > than being part of the active pool that is deployed when writing). > > Instead, they've adopted a common strategy of marking out a > general area > > with the noun and then using modifiers to home in on a particular > spot > > in within it. > > In fact, it's the same thing professional writers do when they > come out > > with sentences such as "The fact that these results have been > observed > > indicates that the phenomenon is real." "Fact" is fluffy -- but > since I > > know the genre, I know when I can get away with using it (if that > > sentence bothers you, all I can say is that amazing numbers of > articles > > have been published with near-equivalents). Students pick up on that > > kind of practice, but they don't yet have enough exposure to > scientific > > genre to know which words can be used in particular cases without > coming > > across as "gauche." > > > > This simply highlights one of Pullum's points: One of S&W's major > > injunctions is that writers should be clear and concise, but they > wrote > > THEIR OWN RULE in a way that attacked a side effect of the actual > > problem rather than the problem itself, and implied there was > something > > wrong with entire classes of words that are only problematic when > > they're used as part of a compensation mechanism. It's as if I > watched > > someone using glue to connect two pieces of wood that should instead > > have been nailed together, and then proclaimed that glue is a bad > thing. > > I'd probably figure out my mistake once I saw people trying to nail > > wallpaper. > > > > Bill Spruiell > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Assembly for the Teaching of English Grammar > > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Scott > > Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 1:08 PM > > To: [log in to unmask] > > Subject: Re: An expert speaks? was ATEG Digest - 14 Apr 2009 to 15 > Apr > > 2009 (#2009-86) > > > > Pulliam is the stupid one if he does not understand what The > Little Book > > means by "Write with nouns and verbs, not with adjectives and > adverbs," they > > insist. > > (The motivation of this mysterious decree remains unclear to me.) > > > > Anyone who had ever graded English themes, especially descriptive > > writing, > > has been exposed to students who use plain verbs and generic > nouns, both > > of > > which are accompanied by a plethora of adverbs and adjectives > > respectively > > when more descriptive verbs and nouns would do a far better job with > > less > > effort. The only explanation that I can give for such students is > > either > > functional illiteracy or sheer laziness (many theme assignments > have--or > > used to have--a minimum number of words). The slovenly among them > use > > any > > gimmick to expand their impoverished thoughts and expression. > > > > I cannot believe that Professor Pulliam has taught English without > > having > > encountered such students: his extreme prejudice towards The > Little Book > > seems to have blinded him to the extent that he can only see vices > and > > never > > virtue. The Little Book has its faults; however, I would trust > Shrunk > > and > > White over a "grammarian" who has had too little contact with > writing to > > understand the motivation for the very sound advice: > > > > "Write with nouns and verbs, not with adjectives and > adverbs." (The motivation of this decree is quite clear to me and > has been since > > Freshman English.) > > > > Scott Catledge > > Professor Emeritus > > > > During the "God is dead" fad of the 60's, I had a bumper sticker > that > > said, > > "My God is alive--sorry about yours." > > > > My understanding of the "motivation" is clear to me--sorry it's not > > clear > > to him. 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