Peter,

 

According to the evidence given in the OED, the terms you mention came from the French, where the adjective follows the noun.  The brigadier is the leader of a brigade, and the brigadier general is the same thing – I guess the meaning of the adjective is neutralized.  This is similar to lieutenant general, except that this rank falls just below that of the general.   There is no indication that the term for this officer came from “general officer,” only that that is its meaning.  The origin of the term must be as a substantive use of the adjective that occurs in such phrases as “general orders” meaning those that originate with the commander-in-chief.  I recommend an acquaintance and  liberal use of this fine resource (Oxford English Dictionary). 

 

Bruce

 

From: Assembly for the Teaching of English Grammar [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Dick Veit
Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 12:10 PM
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Subject: General confusion

 

Peter Fries wrote:

In this context, no one has mentioned an example which my prescriptive self finds particularly annoying.  I have often heard newscasters, when interviewing the attorney general of some state or of the of federal gov't, address the person as 'general'.

I've had the same reaction to that form of address, since general is a following adjective in attorney general and surgeon general, but it raises a question perhaps someone on the list can answer. Presumably the military rank of general originated as an adjective (from "general officer"??). Anyone know how the noun "general" derived from an earlier adjectival form. Also, in ranks such as brigadier general and lieutenant general, which term is the modifier?

Dick Veit
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