Great points, Herb. As is the case with far too many curiosities, I haven't taken the time to write down all of the instances I feel bombarded with. I'm going to make a point to do so moving forward though. I'm fairly certain that the examples I encounter are fairly prototypical examples of the derivational -ly suffix that changes word function from adjective to adverb and was, at one time, required for the adverb function. Here is an example I just heard on the news tonight: "The odds against her didn't stop young Anna....despite her illness, she talks fast and cheery about her new school and friends." And just a bit later on a popular television show: "But do you see how strange he walks?" On a student paper in tonight's stack: "Shelley writes mysterious, evoking a sense of nightmare and vertigo." My friend said this on the phone tonight: "I'm cautious and drive slow. So sue me!" (Although you point out that this -ly is considered optional. Also, isn't there a popular commercial that encourages us to "eat healthy"? On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 8:28 PM, STAHLKE, HERBERT F <[log in to unmask]>wrote: > John, > > Could you give us some examples? With some adjectives the adverb is formed > by zero-derivation, as in fast/fast. With others the -ly is optional, as in > slow/slow/slowly. In some cases the -ly is not adverbial, as in friendly. > For an adverb like hardly, the semantic connection to hard is obscure. And > then there are cases like careful/carefully, where omission of -ly reflects > a difference in dialect or register or both. Do the examples you're seeing > cluster into any of these categories? > > Herb > > Herbert F. W. Stahlke, Ph.D. > Emeritus Professor of English > Ball State University > Muncie, IN 47306 > [log in to unmask] > ________________________________________ > From: Assembly for the Teaching of English Grammar [ > [log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of John Dews-Alexander [ > [log in to unmask]] > Sent: May 14, 2009 6:57 PM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: Suffix-dropping > > I've been amazed at the loss of the derivational suffix -ly that routinely > marks adverbs. > > Bill's talking about inflectional suffixes, I know, but I couldn't help > mentioning the loss of -ly. > > I'm not one to cling to language bits that are rusting out and > disappearing, but it really took me by surprise that -ly is not a productive > part of the language for many speakers. > > If you focus on it and really listen to current language usage on > television (both scripted and unscripted), in radio, and with the people you > encounter, you'll notice it too. > > John Alexander > > On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 5:41 PM, Spruiell, William C <[log in to unmask] > <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote: > > > > I’ve read a ton of student papers over the past two weeks, and based on > this batch and those from the last couple of years, I’m starting to get the > impression that a greater percentage of my students every year are dropping > inflectional suffixes (plurals, tense-markers) and finding it difficult to > notice the omissions when proofreading (I haven’t been formally counting, so > I could be mistaking something I’ve just noticed for a trend, though). I’ve > always seen some of this in examples where the suffix isn’t audible in > normal speech, particularly if the suffix is well on the way to being a > kind of fossil in the particular expression(e.g. “ice tea” – you can’t hear > the realization of the {-ed} suffix before [t], and “iced” in that > expression is probably a unitary adjective rather than a participle for most > speakers who do use the –ed in writing). That’s absolutely normal, and over > time the suffix-less form can become the norm (“ice cream” used to be “iced > cream”). > > > > What I’m seeing, though, are forms like “I was read this book” or “These > short story are….”; they’re in papers written by native English-speakers who > don’t speak any of the dialects that would normally drop those suffixes, and > the same students do use the suffixes in speech (it’s exactly the reverse of > the usual situation, in which students don’t know they have to write bits > that they don’t say). If I draw attention to a line in which there’s a > missing –ing, etc., the students frequently *can’t* see anything unusual > about it; their usual reaction is to look at it for a minute, then get rid > of a comma (if there is one) or add one (if there isn’t). It’s that > inability to notice the “gap” that I’m particularly intrigued by. If I read > the section out loud, they immediately notice the omission (and I then tell > them that they need to coerce friends into reading papers out loud for them > as a coping strategy). It’s not a language issue at all; it’s just an > orthographic one. > > > > I know similar effects can be associated with mild forms of dyslexia, but I > find it hard to believe that fully 15 - 25% of the student population is > even mildly dyslexic. I realize this is starting to sound like a variant > of “Geezer Rant #325A; Those Darn Kids Won’t Write Right” but I’m curious > about whether anyone else is noticing similar patterns, or whether this has > been common all along and I’ve somehow managed not to notice it (which, > given the rest of this post, would be rather amusing for everyone but me…). > > > > ---- Bill Spruiell > > Dept. of English > > Central Michigan University > > To join or leave this LISTSERV list, please visit the list's web interface > at: http://listserv.muohio.edu/archives/ateg.html and select "Join or > leave the list" > > Visit ATEG's web site at http://ateg.org/ > > To join or leave this LISTSERV list, please visit the list's web interface > at: http://listserv.muohio.edu/archives/ateg.html and select "Join or > leave the list" > > Visit ATEG's web site at http://ateg.org/ > > To join or leave this LISTSERV list, please visit the list's web interface > at: > http://listserv.muohio.edu/archives/ateg.html > and select "Join or leave the list" > > Visit ATEG's web site at http://ateg.org/ > To join or leave this LISTSERV list, please visit the list's web interface at: http://listserv.muohio.edu/archives/ateg.html and select "Join or leave the list" Visit ATEG's web site at http://ateg.org/