Craig, you write that "I met Mary in Seattle" is, at least potentially, a sentence. And you point out that putting "before" in front of it downgrades it to something subordinate. I'm wondering about putting an "and" in front. Is "And I met Mary in Seattle" a potential sentence? Does it pass Frank Noguchi's frame test: They refused to believe the idea that and I met Mary in Seatlle? Peter To join or leave this LISTSERV list, please visit the list's web interface at: http://listserv.muohio.edu/archives/ateg.html and select "Join or leave the list" Visit ATEG's web site at http://ateg.org/