Herb, Oddly enough, I found this on a site about grooming Maltese dogs<http://spoiledmaltese.com/forum/51-maltese-grooming/70607-grooming-ahem-male-pee-pee.html>: "Then take his two front paws in one hand. Raise your hand carefully until his underside is "get-at-able" then very carefully perform thatever i[t] is you intend to do." Dick On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 7:41 PM, STAHLKE, HERBERT F <[log in to unmask]>wrote: > Craig, > > The pattern you illustrate below is certainly true of Standard English. > However, in colloquial speech and in non-ztandard varieties of English > "that" is dropped regularly before 0 subjects in relatives. I hear people > say things like "Anyone/thing touches you touches me" fairly regularly. > This syntactic change is taking place because that's outside the relative > clause, just as it's outside the content clause. If it were a pronoun and > perceived as a pronoun cognitively, then I would also expect to hear > things like "Thatever gambles loses" along with "Whoever gambles loses." > But that's one I don't hear. The fact that "that" doesn't delete before a > 0 subject relative clause in Formal Standard English reflects the > conservatism of that dialect. > > Herb > To join or leave this LISTSERV list, please visit the list's web interface at: http://listserv.muohio.edu/archives/ateg.html and select "Join or leave the list" Visit ATEG's web site at http://ateg.org/