Inbound message. "The pond I had put in about 8 years ago. It was a good spot and only took a day to do." A nice example of what you get if you can't see past-tense verbs and know enough to not put 'had' in front of them. Making a difference doesn't happen all that often but when it does, it makes a difference, and that's reason enough to teach it right, which is not done now. .brad.09june11. To join or leave this LISTSERV list, please visit the list's web interface at: http://listserv.muohio.edu/archives/ateg.html and select "Join or leave the list" Visit ATEG's web site at http://ateg.org/