Sorry about my sending troubles.  This should be readable.

From The Economist (Feb. 22):  "Indeed, the idea that [trade deals] will not do much to help the economy is one excuse for Democrats undermining their president."  I would have written "for Democrats' undermining their president," but the possessive before gerunds seems to be getting rare in both speech and writing.  I hear a lot of "That's no excuse for them speaking rudely."  So in parsing such sentences, do we consider the -ing words to be participles modifying the preceding noun?  How many teachers out there still try to teach that gerunds are preceded by possessives?  Thanks.


Michael Kischner
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