Herb and all:

I used to do research in Japanese libraries years ago. As I recall, classification was based in part on Japanese phonology, not the written form of the word or topic. You had to know the sound of the word or phrase and its corresponding written form, which could be either hiragana, katakana, romaji, or kanji (Chinese characters). Keep in mind, you also had to know your topic and related classification headings. There are books that provide these classification headings and you can see an example in English whenever you look at the LOC headings in a library's computerized reference info.

It has been many years since I have been in a Japanese library, but I did not have much trouble finding things. My Japanese was not that good, but I knew enough basic linguistics, Japanese, and the library classification system to figure it out. Ironically, the most difficult thing to do was getting permission to enter the libraries at different universities around Tokyo. You needed a letter of introduction from your university. Sometimes they would deny you permission to enter. The Japanese had a very different idea about the free flow of ideas. No doubt things have changed.

My first published paper was on Likert scales, which I wrote entirely in Japan using Japanese libraries with English holdings. Consider that before Mr. Likert invented these ubiquitous measurements in the 1930s, they did not exist. I was able to find his original paper published in 1932 at the U of Tokyo library along a back wall in a hidden area. Once I found the paper, it was a eureka moment because I could not have completed my paper without the original. I also did research using Japanese sources for my work as a newspaper reporter. I had to find statistics about the the Japanese educational system, population demographics, and immigration data, which were all published in Japanese.

Likert scales, like classification schemes, such as the Library of Congress headings or the numerous systems of grammar, are social constructs, subject to constant revision and eventual extinction. There is an erroneous perception by the public that grammar descriptions are rule-governed and fixed. Unfortunately, some pedagogical grammar textbooks aimed at undergraduates reinforce this belief, especially when they discuss one-off usage rules like inflammable vs. flammable.

Mike Busch


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And of course it depends on the alphabet, so Hebrew and Arabic would alphabetize following the order of their alphabets.  Chinese alphabetizes by the number of strokes in a character.  I have no idea what Japanese or Korean do with their mixed writing systems.

 

Herb

 

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When I worked at a public library, we would have listed J. Navy first. (You alphabetize word by word, secondarily by letters within a word.) But there are complications.  Here's a link to the ALA filing rules: http://www.ala.org/tools/libfactsheets/alalibraryfactsheet27

Of course the whole alphabet is arbitrary, so you could probably use any system you wanted, as long as it enabled you to find things again.

Beth

 

Dr. Beth Rapp Young
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I have never seen an alphabet question on the list, but there's a first time for everything:

If you're alphabetizing J. Navy and Jade (two colors), which comes first?

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