We have a course, Grammar for Teachers, required of almost all English majors. The argument we used was fairly simple: the English students who graduated from our school--especially those who went on to teach English K-12 (the vast majority of our majors)--said they needed it. You might conduct a poll and gather some data to see if you'd have similar results. Larry Beason,Director English Composition Program Dept. of English Eastern Washington University Cheney WA 99004 [log in to unmask] WAC Page: http://ewu66649.ewu.edu/WAC.html