This message was originally submitted by [log in to unmask] to the ATEG list I'm new to the listserv and just picked up on the form/function discussion. I teach grammar/syntax at California State University, Hayward, California, and I, too, teach form and function although a few students do seem to have a problem making the distinction. But it's those same students who wouldn't recognize a verb if it bit them! They need some other approach, I suppose, and I'm open to suggestions! Most of my students are liberal studies majors preparing for the credential program so that they can teach. Those of you teaching out there in K-12--what DO these people need to know? (Can you even answer this in an email?) Kathryn Gunderson CSU Hayward