This message was originally submitted by H. Thomas McCracken ([log in to unmask]) to the ATEG list at MIAMIU.ACS.MUOHIO.EDU. To Bill Murdick: Thanks for your comments. There certainly are differences among the members of this group and that's healthy. I notice that your subject was '"NCTE/NCATE Guidelines," but I failed to see any connection between the Guidelines and your statement. You said that you are opposed to any "program of instruction on sentences," but the guidelines say only that preservice teachers need to (two of the eight on language which might apply) 3.1.6 "understand English grammars" and 3.1.7 "understand semantics, syntax, morphology, and phonology." But how is any of that a "program of instruction on sentences"? The guidelines state what the preservice teacher needs to know.