This message was originally submitted by William J. McCleary ( [log in to unmask]) to the ATEG list If we must rehash these arguments about whether one should teach grammar, it would be helpful if writers would specify what they mean by teaching grammar, to whom they are teaching it, for what purpose they are teaching it, what results they expect from teaching it, and what is being offered as evidence that this or that approach has this or that effect. Otherwise, we will never advance. Bill McCleary William J. McCleary Editor: Composition Chronicle Associate Prof. of English Viceroy Publications Coordinator of Secondary English 3247 Bronson Hill Road SUNY at Cortland Livonia, NY 14487 607-753-2076 716-346-6859 [log in to unmask] [log in to unmask]