I want to thank Robert Einarsson for his reference to my curriculum proposal. In visiting his web site, ( www.artsci.gmcc.ab.ca/people/einarsson)I noted that he proposes the need for fewer grammatical concepts than I do. He says: "I have found that these three units are enough to teach and test upon: a. prepositional phrase; always starts on a preposition and goes to the next noun. b. clause conjunction; for every additional clause added to a sentence, there will always be a clause conjunction. c. dependent clause; contains the key subject-verb combination but is not an independent sentence." I have been watching this discussion with interest. There is (was) somewhat general agreement that the description of the grammar to be taught should be the first priority. Might I suggest that we need a few people to step forward with lists of the constructions/concepts that they think need to be included in the K-12 grammar curriculum. These lists will then become either topics of debate toward one list, or focal points around which like-minded people can gather to develop a coherent, complete description. Ed V.