Brad,

Do you know when/if it came to an end in Northern Ireland?

David

On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 5:15 AM, Bradley Kadel <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> In my doctoral thesis held at the University of Wisconsin, I have a chapter
> dedicated to Sunday Closing in Ireland in the 1870s and 80s. The thesis can
> also be downloaded from the library in PDF format. Entitled "Vintners and
> the Politics of Drink in Ireland, 1860-1918," the work is the basis for my
> current manuscript on Irish publicans and public houses in the long
> nineteenth century in Ireland.
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> Dr. Brad Kadel
> Assistant Professor of History
> Fayetteville State University
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Tanya Cassidy
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 2:02 PM
> Subject: Re: Sunday Closing in Scotland and Ireland
> Dear David,
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> In the Republic of Ireland, these issues are discussed in Dail debates in
> 1923 and 1924  and prohibited Sunday drinking is introduced in the 1924
> Intoxicating Liquor Act "before the hour of one o'clock in the evening or
> after the hour of ten o'clock in the evening on any Sunday."  The 1923
> debates indicate that prior to this, special seven day licenses were
> permitted in Dublin, Cork, Limerick and Waterford, although there are some
> interesting arguments about city boundaries etc.  Kevin O'Higgins introduced
> this bill, and the debates around Sunday drinking was also linked to a
> discussion of St Patrick's Day which was made the same as Christmas and Good
> Friday, in other words, no liquor was available.  Today Sunday drinking is
> still slightly more restricted than other days of the week, and St.
> Patrick's Day is now more like Sunday.  This began at the turn of the twenty
> first century, involving rather complex distinctions between the beginning
> of the week and the end of the week, which was to designed to replace summer
> time versus winter time drinking hours (see
> http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/2000/...0003.html#sec3).
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> Shane Butler is a close friend of mine, and his work is very good and
> interesting.  Shane and I met when we were both working on our doctorates in
> the 1990s.  In fact, I worked on a lot of these points for my doctorate
> (Department of Sociology, University of Chicago, 1997), and have presented
> on either side of the ocean prior to taking an extended maternity break
> (which is another story).  Suffice to say, I have recently returned to
> working (in 2009  -- I am currently both a Cochrane Fellow at the National
> University of Ireland, Maynooth and an Adjunct Professor at the University
> of Windsor in Canada -- in fact I am a dual citizen, as is my son), and am
> back preparing a number of long overdue materials on Ireland and drinking
> for publication.
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> I hope this helps in some way, and if there is anything else I can add
> regarding Ireland, please do get in touch.
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> All my best,
> Tanya
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> Dr. Tanya M. Cassidy
> Sociology & Anthropology
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> From:        David Fahey <[log in to unmask]>
> To:        [log in to unmask]
> Date:        30/05/2011 11:54 PM
> Subject:        Sunday Closing in Scotland and Ireland
> Sent by:        Alcohol and Drugs History Society <[log in to unmask]>
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> It can be frustratingly difficult to learn basic facts about the sale
> of alcoholic beverages.  May I ask for help about the end of Sunday
> Closing in Scotland and Ireland (both Northern Ireland and the Irish
> Republic)?  In Scotland local authorities obtained the right to allow
> the sale of alcoholic drink on Sundays in the 1970s.  I assume that
> today Sunday Closing has disappeared entirely in Scotland.  Does
> anybody have the date?  What about Sunday Closing in Ireland where in
> the late nineteenth century it existed outside the major cities?  I
> assume that it has disappeared in the Irish Republic.  Date?  I am
> less certain about Northern Ireland.
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> Sunday Closing for alcoholic drink was mostly a consequence of
> sabbatarianism, and sabbatarianism has virtually disappeared.  Growing
> up in New York State in the late 1940s, I recall that it then was
> difficult to buy an innocuous bottle of milk on Sunday and on holidays
> such as today's (Memorial Day).  All the big stores were closed,
> whether by law or custom.
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> David M. Fahey
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David M. Fahey
Professor Emeritus of History
Miami University
Oxford, Ohio 45056
USA