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>Poster:       harold rosenberg <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject:      Re: ATHG Digest - 23 Feb 1996 to 24 Feb 1996
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>> Date:    Sat, 24 Feb 1996 12:47:25 -0500
>> From:    Michael Davids <[log in to unmask]>
>> Subject: Re: Alcoholics Anonymous
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>>           In regards to A.A., does anyone have any info on the
>>           group *Rational Recovery* which is far more liberal
>>           and less religious than A.A.        Thanx, MD:)
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I second what Rosenberg has written. I know Jack personally and he lives
near me. He is a genuine sincere man but spends too much time AA bashing.
There are a large number of RR groups in the country and I understand that a
division has taken place. I don't know the details, but Jack is now
advocating Addiction Voice Recognition Training (AVRT). There are two web
pages that you might check: http://www.sna.com/recovery/ and
www.wco.com/~eforeman/rr.htm. While I disagree professionally, personally
and philosophically with AA, there is room for many points of view
 
 
>        There is a "movement" called Rational Recovery which is promoted
>by its founder, Jack Trimpey, as an alternative to AA.  Although the
>outcome goal for participants is the same (i.e., abstinence), and the
>importance of group support is retained, the proposed steps to recovery
>are different.  Trimpey uses an RET (Rational Emotive Therapy, based on
>Albert Ellis's work) approach vs. the your-life-is-unmanageable approach
>and higher-power approach proposed by AA.  Trimpey has written a book, The
>Small Book, Delacorte Press, 1989, that explains his approach.  His book
>is not well-written (for example, it is often redundant and boring and
>there is no obvious reason why this approach endorses abstinence a priori);
>however, the approach using RET is clearly different than AA.  One may
>also write to Trimpey at Rational Recovery Systems, Lotus Press, Box 800,
>Lotus, CA.  95651 for more information.
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Harry Avis Ph.D.
Sierra College
Rocklin, CA 95677
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