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Ann Tlusty <[log in to unmask]>
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Alcohol and Drugs History Society <[log in to unmask]>
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Thu, 2 Sep 2004 16:37:44 -0400
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Have you seen the recent article by Benjamin Roberts? -- "Drinking Like a Man:
the Paradox of Excessive Drinking for Seventeenth-Century Dutch Youths",
Journal of Family History 2004 29: 237-252 (July 2004).


Quoting Gerald Groenewald <[log in to unmask]>:

> Does anybody on the list know of any recent work on
> the history of taverns or drinking in the Dutch
> Republic, that is to say the 17th and 18th centuries.
> I know Hermesdorf’s “De Herberg in de Nederlanden”
> (Assen, 1957), but that largely deals with the
> 14th-16th centuries, and only occasionally veers into
> the 17th. Jansen’s once much cited “De Eeuwige Kroeg”
> (Meppel, 1976) actually contains very little on the
> Netherlands as such, but deals with the phenomenon of
> drinking places in Europe in a general way from
> antiquity to the 20th century. There is a lengthy
> two-part article on “Oud-Rotterdamsch Kroegleven”
> (1944-45), which is the only work specifically
> dedicated to this topic that I know of. Of course,
> many modern Dutch social historians -- such as van
> Deursen, Spierenburg, Roodenburg and van de Pol --
> deal incidentally with taverns and drinking in their
> work, but I am hoping to find something more detailed
> and specific.
>
> A search in the bibliographies of this group’s website
> hasn’t revealed anything but a recent work on
> temperance, which seems to be more geared towards the
> 19th century. I’ve often been intrigued by this
> (seeming) lack of interest by Dutch historians in this
> topic, especially considering the enormous amount of
> work done by their English and German colleagues on
> this, and especially for this period. And, taking into
> account that the Dutch were considered to be very hard
> drinkers by most other European nations in the early
> modern era.
>
> Any help would be very much appreciated,
> with thanks,
>
> Gerald Groenewald
>
> PS. I forgot to mention that in the recent spate of
> publications on the history of food in the
> Netherlands, one can occasionally find something on
> drinking as well.
>
>
>
>
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