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"Dick B." <[log in to unmask]>
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Alcohol and Temperance History Group <[log in to unmask]>
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Mon, 25 Jun 2001 08:31:32 -1000
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Makes one salivate for 1 kilderkin unless he or she has chosen the route of
abstinence because kilderkin's don't agree with him or her.

Ron Roizen wrote:

> What evocative and wonderful poetics reside in the names for old measures
> of ale and beer!
>
> British measures (Clarke, 1891, p. 37):
>
> 9 gallons make 1 FIRKIN
> 2 firkins make 1 KILDERKIN
> 2 kilderkins make 1 BARREL
> 3 kilderkins make 1 HOGSHEAD
> 2 hogsheads make 1 BUTT
> 2 butts make 1 TUN
>
> One BUTT is a lot of beer or ale.
>
> F.W. Clarke, WEIGHTS, MEASURES AND MONEY, OF ALL NATIONS, New York: D.
> Appleton & Company, 1891.
>
> ----------
> From: David Fahey <[log in to unmask]>
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Fwd: Re: Beef and Butt Beer
> Date: Monday, June 25, 2001 10:51 AM
>
> >Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 10:37:59 -0700
> >From: "Terry L. Taylor" <[log in to unmask]>
> >Subject: Re: Beef and Butt Beer
> >Sender: H-Net List for British and Irish History <[log in to unmask]>
> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >Reply-to: H-Net List for British and Irish History
> <[log in to unmask]>
> >Organization: Shoreline Community College, Seattle, WA
> >Original-recipient: rfc822;[log in to unmask]
> >
> >Date:             Mon, 25 Jun 2001 08:18:36 -0400
> >From:             Eric Tenbus <[log in to unmask]>
> >
> >Sebastian:
> >
> >The term "butt' refers to the wooden cask in which beer was stored.
> "Entire
> >butt" seems to have been a name that initially referred to a blend of
> >three ales
> >(pale, brown, and old, the latter being aged for up to a year), a.k.a. the
> >"three
> >threads."  According to Roger Protz in his book Classic Stout and Porter,
> >entire
> >butt, also sometimes called simply entire, co-existed with another
> flourishing
> >beer that soon became the most popular ale in England, that being
> >porter.  Over
> >time, however, the name entire butt came to mean the same as porter, as
> London
> >drinkers often confused the two beers.  This happened in the first few
> decades
> >of
> >the nineteenth century.  Eventually, large brewers such as Whitbread
> >phased out
> >the production of entire butt as a separate ale.
> >
> >I hope that helps somewhat.
> >
> >Eric G. Tenbus, Ph.D.
> >Central Missouri State University

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God bless,

Dick B.
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