The English Education faculty in our English department pushed through a curriculum revision two years ago that reduced the number of literature courses required, to make room for more methods courses. There was some lively debate in the department, but as a faculty we have tended to defer to the area faculty. However, as I'm sure we're all aware, there is an ongoing tension between professional education courses and content courses. Currently the educators seem to be in the ascendant.
Herb
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From: Assembly for the Teaching of English Grammar [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Linda Di Desidero
Sent: 2008-10-01 09:15
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Subject: Re: Hancock & the NCTE/Teacher training
On Craig's assertion about typical English teachers being trained in literature:
As I understand it, many English teachers today are required to have some training in composition as well language structure. Requirements are state-specific, right? Some newer teachers can speak to this.
Linda
Linda Di Desidero, Ph.D.
Acting Director, Communication Studies & Professional Writing
University of Maryland University College
3501 University Boulevard, East
Adelphi, MD 20783
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From: Assembly for the Teaching of English Grammar on behalf of Craig Hancock
Sent: Sat 9/20/2008 3:56 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Hancock & the NCTE
> Brad,
The problem, I think, is that they expect "good grammar" to be
something that teachers acquire rather than know about. Correcting
errors is not the same thing as teaching about grammar. There's a lot
more involved in language than "conventional standards." A typical
English teacher is trained in literature, but not in language.
Craig
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> Craig Hancock <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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> Grammar is not highly valued by progressive educators, which is why NCTE
> is in opposition to the direct teaching of grammar in the schools. The
> opposition comes in part because grammar is very narrowly defined. The
> conversation rarely happens because the two worlds are so far apart.
>
> ~~~~~~~
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> Is it not true that while the NCTE opposes the direct teaching of grammar
> in the schools, they expect that teachers of the various English
> disciplines will be more than conversant with the good grammar of Standard
> English, so that teachers who grade student essays, for example, can
> constantly nudge student writing in the direction of conventional
> standards?
>
> So-called "creative" writing, which often ignores good grammar, comes
> later and violations are, or should be, done with intent and not through
> ignorance. Contemporary authors almost always claim intent but often there
> is evidence to the contrary.
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