Johanna and all,

Your research into state standards is a splendid projecct.  I would
also be interested in learning about the language requirements that
the various states have for their teacher-training certification.
I'll appreciate hearing from anyone with information.

Martha



>These messages of mine are long, so I thought I would add more response
>to Gretchen's posting in a separate message.
>
>I have tried to find material on when certain constructions appear
>naturally in children's speech or writing during the school years,
>without a lot of success. Ed does have the best bibliography on this
>that I know of, but frankly, I think this is a very neglected area of
>linguistics research. Linguists were so charmed and amazed by how much
>children learn before age 5 that they thought there wasn't much
>happening after that that was of interest. And, of course, linguists
>have been notoriously uninterested in applying linguistics successfully
>in the school curriculum (part of the reason we are where we are today).
>
>We DO need a list of grammatical construction types and when they
>emerge; whether they emerge naturally or need instructional
>encouragement; to what degree mastery is dependent on being exposed to
>such constructions in reading, etc.
>
>As to responding to or critiquing state standards -- as part of a
>project undertaken by members of the Linguistic Society of America's
>Language in the School Curriculum committee, I am (actually, my student
>assistant is) compiling a comprehensive overview of state standards (all
>50 states) regarding grammar. Once we have this, it will be possible to
>address the failings and strengths of such standards. It can be done for
>individual states, too, of course. The letter I wrote to our local ed.
>board had something like that. I'll see if I can translate it out of the
>ancient word processor it was created in and, if there is interest, post
>it to the list or send it to interested individuals.
>
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>English Department, Cal Poly State University
>San Luis Obispo, CA 93407
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