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peyman javadi <[log in to unmask]>
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--- On Sun, 12/27/09, Erin Karl <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

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--- On Sun, 12/27/09, Erin Karl <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> From: Erin Karl <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Gerunds and Participles
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Date: Sunday, December 27, 2009, 3:16 PM
> Peyman,
> 
> Gerunds end in -ing and can
> do any "job" a noun can do.  They can be
> alone or in a phrase.
> 
> Alone:
> RUNNING is my favorite activity.
> 
> Phrase:
> RUNNING A FASHION SHOW is my favorite activity.  (a
> fashion show is the direct object of running.)
> 
> Participles can end in -ing
> (present participle)  or fit in the sentence "I
> have ______" (past participle) and are modifiers
> (adjectival).  They can also be alone or in a
> phrase.
> 
> Alone (present):
> The RUNNING water woke me up.
> 
> Phrase (present):
> The woman RUNNING THE FASHION SHOW is a real witch.
> 
> Phrase (past):
> Hang that picture on the wall PAINTED RED. (red is a
>  predicate adjective)
> 
> The trick I use for distiguishing between present
> participles and gerunds is to try and remove them from the
> sentence.  Since gerund is do a job (subject, object of
> the preposition, etc) you can't remove them (along with
> any phrase parts if there) without marring the
> sentence.  On the other hand, participles and
> participials phrases CAN be removed since they only
> modify.  You may be left with a sentence that isn't
> as interesting or is lacking information, but structurally
> the sentence will still be intact.
> 
> Try this trick with my examples.  If you remove the
> capitalized words, the gerund sentences will be missing key
> parts while the participle sentences will be fine.
> 
> Blessings,
> Erin
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: peyman javadi
> <[log in to unmask]>
> To:
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> Sent: Sun,
> December 27, 2009 4:42:09 PM
> Subject:
> Gerunds and Participles
> 
> 
> Okay my question is about gerunds and participles. 
> Now w
> Hello all,
> 
> Okay my question is about gerunds and participles. 
> Now we know that they are verb forms that can be used as
> nouns.  Typically gerunds end in ing and participles
> can often appear in the ed or en endings of verbs like 
> broken or worked.  Am I right so far?  It seems I
> came across and example or two of participles that also end
> in ing.  Could you please explain to me how to
> distinguish between the two; it seems to me that if an ing
> ending is used in an adjective context, then that ing ending
> is considered a participle.  However, I am not a 100%
> certain about this.  I will simply look forward to your
> explanations.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Peyman
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Erin, Herb, Pete, David, Craig, Bret, Gerald, and all,

Thanks so much for the explanations.  I will look these over.
I might e-mail some sentence examples later as a means of enrichment for my learning. I will practice your suggestions on paper and get back with some questions.

Meanwhile, do any of you know of a web site that takes good care of diagramming.  I speak of something like dictionary.com where you write a sentence and the computer produces a diagram automatically.


Thanks again.

Peyman





      

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