When our oldest boy was four, he invented the word "forleft," which he had only in the preterite. He was apparently trying to distinguish between "forgot" in the sense of leaving something behind and "forgot" in the sense of not remembering to do something. I've always thought it a useful neologism--even if he outgrew it in a few months.
Herb
Herbert F. W. Stahlke, Ph.D.
Emeritus Professor of English
Ball State University
Muncie, IN 47306
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Scott,
Surely you mean for-gotten! );-)
Of course, if you've forgotten to go to the circus just once, I suppose you must've gone at least twice.
Sorry, but I couldn't resist,
Paul
"If this were play'd upon a stage now, I could condemn it as an improbable fiction" (_Twelfth Night_ 3.4.127-128).
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One self-proclaimed expert in English grammar once sneered at me,
"There is never any justification for using 'gotten'; no semantic difference
exists between 'got' and 'gotten."
My response was "I've gotten to go to the circus just once; oh, well,
I've got to go; see you later."
Scott Catledge
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1. forcing the irregular past participle
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Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 14:35:45 -0700
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Subject: forcing the irregular past participle
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We know that people sometimes=C2=A0put 'had' in front of past tense verbs a=
nd we know that when they try to put 'had' in front of an irregular past te=
nse=C2=A0verb, 'had forgot' doesn't sound right so it becomes 'had forgotte=
n' instead of 'forgot'.=C2=A0It's called=C2=A0'forcing the iregular past pa=
rticiple'.
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Why else did Scott write: I had forgotten (shame on me!) just how good Orwe=
ll=E2=80=99s article is.
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If anyone has a better explanation, let's hear it.
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Scott <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
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I had forgotten (shame on me!) just how good Orwell=E2=80=99s article is.
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BAD WRITING AND BAD THINKING
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By Rachel Toor=C2=A0
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>We know that people sometimes put 'had' in front o=
f past tense verbs and we know that when they try to put 'had' in front of =
an irregular past tense verb, 'had forgot' doesn't sound right so it b=
ecomes 'had forgotten' instead of 'forgot'. It's called 'forcing =
the iregular past participle'.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Why else did Scott write: <SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: G=
eorgia; COLOR: #373839; FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt">I had forgotten (shame on me!) j=
ust how good Orwell=E2=80=99s article is.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>.brad.23apr10.</FONT></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2><B>Scott <I><[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>></I></B> wrote:</FON=
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