When I diagram these sentences, 1 & 3 w=easily fall into the predicate
adjective slot; #2 does not. I agree with your conclusions.
N. Scott Catledge
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Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 15:18:56 -0700
From: Odile Sullivan-Tarazi <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Predicate adjectives: three questions
I am tangled up in the throes of predicate adjectives, and I'm
wondering whether anyone can help. I have three questions.
* Question 1
Is an adjective in the object complement slot a predicate adjective?
(That is, with an understood copula.)
She considered the car red.
I think yes. The _to be_ relationship is understood, and the
adjective appears in the predicate phrase.
* Question 2
Is the adjective that follows a noun in the subject phrase a
predicate adjective when it follows a verbal (infinitive,
participial) form and refers back to that noun?
The car, being red . . .
The car, considered red . . .
The car, to be red . . .
I think no. The adjective is not in the predicate phrase. (The verb
form is not finite, but then neither is the understood "to be" in the
first example, so the limiting factor is that the adjective does not
appear in the predicate phrase, right?)
But if so, if this is the limiting factor, must the predicate phrase
be that of the entire sentence? Is the crucial point here not that
the adjective is not in _the_ predicate phrase, but that the
adjective is not in _any_ predicate phrase? (That's question 3,
actually.)
* Question 3
Is an adjective that appears within the predicate phrase of its
clause as a subject complement in that clause a predicate adjective,
regardless of whether it appears in the predicate phrase for the
entire sentence?
I like that car because it is red. (two main verbs, so no
problem here)
I like the car that is red.
I like the car, which is red.
I think that the car is red.
I think yes. Within the clause, the relationship is that of a
predicate adjective.
But does it matter that in the second, third, and fourth sentences
the main verb is transitive? There is a sense in which, for these
particular sentences, the embedded clause appears in the predicate
phrase, but not in the standard way in which we think of predicate
adjectives. And in the second and third, it might as easily have not.
The car that is red . . .
The car, which is red, . . . .
Does it matter, with respect to the entire sentence (for the purpose
of this one issue: is _red_ a predicate adjective here or not),
whether the relative clause falls within the subject phrase or the
predicate phrase?
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Predicate adjectives are most commonly spoken of in terms of being
subject complements with respect to the entire sentence, but is it
rather the case that the predicate adjective is linked to its noun
via _to be_ or another linking verb, whether explicitly or
implicitly, such that it appears in the predicate of some clause?
In other words, the limiting factor is not that the verb be
conjugated (it is not in the case of the object complement), but that
the adjective be situated as a predicate within a clause (it is not,
for instance, in the case of a relative phrase).
I think so.
Odile
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