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Aram Mkrtychev <[log in to unmask]>
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Assembly for the Teaching of English Grammar <[log in to unmask]>
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Thu, 8 Jun 2000 20:53:29 -0700
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Although patterns can be confusing, especially for ESL students like myself,
they are necessary in the process-analysis of understanding the structure
and logic of English sentences. By using these patterns, we can analyze any
verb no matter how confusing verb could be. Nowadays, unfortunately, we have
a problem in our educational system: Linguists didn't come up with the
standard system that could be used in elementary and middle schools. Many
people, after a completion of high schools, don't know anything about
grammar at all. Any ideas?

-----Original Message-----
From: Assembly for the Teaching of English Grammar
[mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Johanna Rubba
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2000 7:53 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Grammar Book + Patterns


I agree with Bob about the sentence patterns. I think they can be
particularly confusing, since the same verb can appear sometimes
transitively, sometimes not.

Maybe it has something to do with our training as linguists, where verb
complementation is a hot topic, and sentence patterns invoke ideas of
transformations.

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English Department, California Polytechnic State University
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