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Dawn Burnette <[log in to unmask]>
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Assembly for the Teaching of English Grammar <[log in to unmask]>
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Thu, 4 Mar 2004 12:43:28 -0500
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I've drawn diagrams with PageMaker.  It's not too difficult.
Dawn

"Stahlke, Herbert F.W." wrote:

> I'm preparing materials for an undergrad grammar course this summer, and
> I'd like to use RK diagrams for at least some of it.  Does anyone know
> of software that will easily produce RK diagrams?  I've tried various
> combinations of drawing functions and text boxes, in both Word and
> Excel, and I haven't found anything that works very well.  The obvious
> problems are combining lines with text and putting text on diagonal
> lines.  The necessary functions just don't work well together for this.
>
> Picking up on our months old discussion of the grammatical status of
> "that", I've also been looking at Kolln and Funk's Understanding English
> Grammar (6th), and I can see how RK diagrams virtually force one to
> treat "that" as a NP in relative clauses, all syntactic, morphological,
> and phonological arguments to the contrary.  I wonder, though, why they
> call "that" introducing a nominal clause an "expletive" rather than a
> subordinating conjunction, unless they require that subordinating
> conjunctions represent some major grammatical category like NP, PP,
> AdjP, or AdvP.  Although I suppose a relative clause with "that" could
> be represented like an asyndetic relative, with the dotted line
> connecting to "X" in some grammatical relation and "that" above the verb
> of the relative clause connected also by a dotted line.  And why are
> there no RK diagrams in Chapter 8, on Sentence Modifiers?  The reason
> given is that RK provides no way to do this, but this strikes me as an
> excellent opportunity to create one, an option grammarians have, since
> there appears to be no widely accepted authority on diagrammaing.
>
> Herb
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