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JEFF GLAUNER <[log in to unmask]>
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Assembly for the Teaching of English Grammar <[log in to unmask]>
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For further elaboration of my view of sentence patterns, see my grammar text
at the following address:  http://www.park.edu/jglauner/index.htm
I hope this is helpful to you.

Jeff Glauner

----- Original Message -----
From: "Aram Mkrtychev" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2000 10:26 PM
Subject: Re: Grammar Book + Patterns


>         Thank you Jeff for your response.
> Yes, I've made an error when I wrote the patterns. I hope Michael or Edith
> didn't read my message. 1)S-IV,2)S-LV-SC,3)S-TV-DO, 4)S-TV-IO-DO,
> 5)S-TV-DO-OC. Thank you for your sentences Jeff.
> But I didn't see the difference between the sentences that you sent and
> sentences that we diagramming in class. Maybe there aren't any other
> patterns, just variations of the basic ones. Thank you very much Jeff for
> your response.
>
> Respectfully,Aram
> North Seattle Community College
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Assembly for the Teaching of English Grammar
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of JEFF GLAUNER
> Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2000 6:26 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Grammar Book + Patterns
>
>
> In response to Aram's inquiry, the following:
>
> The list he provided is a start.  There seems to be one error, although it
> might just be a semantic problem.  The third pattern should have a DO
> instead of an OC following the IO.  Most obviously missing from the usual
> list is the SC (subject complement).  Also, I break my SCs and OCs into
two
> patterns each:  AdjPh and NP.
>
> Delahunty and Garvey add three more patterns.  The first of these is the
> "Recipient/Benefactive" which is usually the transformed indirect object
> pattern (e.g., John sent a cake to his mother).  The second is the
> "Location" pattern which includes an adverbial in the predicate (e.g., He
> threw the ball over the fence, or He put the ball down). I have problems
> with this one.  It stretches the definition of complement too far into the
> definition of modifier. Also, it gets mixed up in the discussion of
particle
> Vs preposition.  The third is "Passive."  Most grammarians (including me)
> consider this a transformation rather than a basic pattern. To consider it
a
> basic sentence pattern adds unnecessary complication to the generative
verb
> formula.
>
> I've seen other patterns, but they are usually variations on the above.
>
> Jeff Glauner
> Park University

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