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And, of course, the northern Ohio "youse," rhymes with "use," not "louse."  On -uns forms, if you haven't read Robert Nathan's _The Weans_, you've missed one of the great sendups of archeology and American culture.

Herb

Herbert F. W. Stahlke, Ph.D.
Emeritus Professor of English
Ball State University
Muncie, IN  47306
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From: Assembly for the Teaching of English Grammar [[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Katz, Seth [[log in to unmask]]
Sent: August 18, 2009 10:16 PM
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Subject: Re: Howdy, Y'all

Then there's the Pittsburgh version of "y'uns," "yinz."

Dr. Seth Katz
Assistant Professor
Department of English
Bradley University

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From: Assembly for the Teaching of English Grammar on behalf of DD Farms
Sent: Tue 8/18/2009 2:34 PM
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Subject: Howdy, Y'all



At 01:00 p.m. 18/08/2009, Katz, Seth wrote:
>. . . I still use y'all (and I think its use is spreading). But
>don't you find that people use it as both a singular and a plural?
>Though the singular may imply something like 'you and your people.' Opinions?

DD:  Aged Decayed Southron [ Suthrun ] gentry am I. I use it both
ways, too. As a plural, usually, but singularly meaning both you and
your family, but also as a shortcut for you and all your affairs.
Obviously if I say, "Y'all want to come over to my farm?" and it is
addressed to one person, it means you and your family. If it is said
to two or more it probably doesn't include their family. If I wanted
them, too, I'd add something like, "And bring your folks, too." In
East Tennessee Hill country, it will most likely be, Y'uns." "Y'uns
come, weuns ain't much for going."

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