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Re: Singular or Plural
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"Stahlke, Herbert F.W." <[log in to unmask]>
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Assembly for the Teaching of English Grammar <[log in to unmask]>
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Tue, 27 Apr 2004 17:41:01 -0500
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I like that.  Damning with fair euphemism.

 

Herb



	-----Original Message----- 

	From: Assembly for the Teaching of English Grammar on behalf of PAUL DONIGER 

	Sent: Tue 4/27/2004 4:29 PM 

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	Subject: Re: Singular or Plural

	

	

	I'm with you, Herb. To me, the subjunctive is alive and struggling, and I would consider "attends" in this sentence an unfortunate usage (how's that as an improvement over "error"?).

	 

	Paul E. Doniger

	

	"Stahlke, Herbert F.W." <[log in to unmask]> wrote:



		Kari,



		 



		This is what’s called an “irrealis” clause. The event hasn’t occurred yet.  For this, more formal English uses what’s left of the subjunctive, which means no –s on the verb.  However, informal English uses the –s quite widely, including in broadcast news.  So while I personally prefer no –s, very few people do that any more.  There are, however, plenty of people around who will still mark it as an error.



		 



		Herb Stahlke



		 



		

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		From: Assembly for the Teaching of English Grammar [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Kari Anderson

		Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 2:02 PM

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		Subject: Singular or Plural



		 



		

		I have a question for you--should it be "attends" or "attend" and why? 

		        We propose he attend(s) the management workshop. 

		Kari Anderson 

		University of Nebraska at Kearney 

		West Center 

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