Hi Suzy,
Thanks for your note. Every policy has pros and cons. It's the net of the
two that matters. Perhaps you can share some of those "obvious" rationale
in a law review article somewhere.
You apparently don't know my colleagues. And, I would venture to say, you
may not really know many local law enforcement types, many of whom
represent more of a threat to society (Gulf War vets with latent PTSD?)
than the vast majority of college professors. I would trust most of my
colleagues with my life. They are a great bunch of people. Some of them
have concealed carry permits. Our community is safer because they do.
Seriously.
As to the funding question, I would argue that allowing concealed carry at
schools would be very inexpensive compared to other policy prescriptions.
Kind regards,
Kurt S. Schulzke, JD, CPA, CFE
Associate Professor of Accounting & Business Law
Director - Law, Ethics & Regulation
Corporate Governance Center
Kennesaw State University
+ 1770-423-6379 (O)
+ 1404-861-5729 (C)
http://coles.kennesaw.edu/centers/corporate-governance/
My research: http://ssrn.com/author=804023
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From: Academy of Legal Studies in Business (ALSB) Talk
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Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 1:51 PM
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Subject: Re: Newtown
I can think of a lot which is wrong about this idea of arming teachers as
a good way to deal with the problem, but aside from the obvious, do you
really think in a time when a lot of teachers can't even get basic school
supplies unless they buy them themselves, that the government would ever
fund training and arming them?
And take a look at your colleagues. Seriously, are you going to be happy
with these people all toting heat??
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Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 12:41 PM
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Subject: Re: Newtown
Hi Dan,
My heart, like yours, goes out to all affected by this terrible tragedy.
It is so hard to deal with the pointless, violent passing of anyone, but
especially innocent little children. It is also a natural tendency at
times like these to respond emotionally, to try to do something, anything
in an effort to prevent similar occurrences.
In an effort to get more reliable information than that generally
available through media sources, I had a long conversation yesterday with
a SWAT team member who is responsible for coordinating the local response
to events like that in Newtown.
First, he noted that at this stage of the investigation, reliable
information is too scant to support policy-making. He is waiting to read
the official after-incident report, because what is filtered to the public
by the media is most often inaccurate and always incomplete. For example,
he has doubts about the reports that the gunman gained entrance to the
school by shooting through a security door with an "assault rifle."
Typical assault rifles (assuming a typical secure door) are incapable of
inflicting that kind of damage quickly enough to get through such a door
before law enforcement arrives. For that, one typically needs
higher-caliber weapons and special-purpose armor-piercing ammunition.
Second, however, in generic terms, he observed that TIME is the key
variable in saving lives once this kind of thing begins. There is
typically no way to negotiate with one who has resolved to begin this kind
of killing spree. And there is no way for law enforcement to respond
quickly enough to prevent multiple deaths once the shooting begins. No
police force is capable of either preventing such killers from getting
weapons or from inflicting mass casualties, no matter what kind of "gun
control" laws are officially on the books. Thus, the best defense is a
good offense: administrators and/or teachers should be armed and trained
to respond with real firepower, on the spot.
Finally, he noted that when he delivers this kind of advice to school
administrators, the response is routinely a genuinely-motivated but
too-often fatal mantra, "But our school is a gun-free zone." So,
supposedly, were airliners until September 11, 2001.
For my part, until I see the after-incident report on Newtown, I plan to
withhold judgment on the hows and whys of what occurred there and how to
reduce the likelihood of it happening elsewhere. Now is a time for
comforting those mourning the loss of friends and family.
Kind regards,
Kurt S. Schulzke, JD, CPA, CFE
Associate Professor of Accounting & Business Law
Director - Law, Ethics & Regulation
Corporate Governance Center
Kennesaw State University
+ 1770-423-6379 (O)
+ 1404-861-5729 (C)
http://coles.kennesaw.edu/centers/corporate-governance/
My research: http://ssrn.com/author=804023
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From: "Elaine Ingulli" <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 12:45:10 PM
Subject: Re: Newtown
Dan,
Thank you for this link.
I don't think the emotional impact of Newtown has much to do with your
being a parent: I don't have any children (hence no grandchildren), but
truthfully this hit me harder than any of the other horrific events of
recent years. I, like, you, have not been able to come to grips with it,
but have recognized my own reaction in intermittent welling up of tears.
It's both very simply "horrible" and at the same time complex (how to take
that meaningful action, etc.; I so value community--so how do I understand
something that a seemingly strong "community" couldn't prevent?). But that
value made me feel better, today, just seeing your words and listening to
the link.
Elaine Ingulli
Professor of Business Law
Local Negotiator, SFT
Richard Stockton College of New Jersey
(609)652-4304
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Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 12:09 PM
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Subject: Newtown
Dear ALSB'er's,
As the ALSB Executive Secretary, I refrain often from commenting on
ALSBTALK about any issue that is remotely political, contentious, or
argumentative, even in the least degree possible. As a father of two, and
grandfather of four, including my 6 year old first grader gradnson, Jack,
I've been experiencing a fundamental shaking of my entire core being as
soon as I heard, late Friday night, about the Newtown tragedy. I have
been trying to put into coherent thoughts my own reaction. But, each time
I go to that place in my mind, trying to comprehend this event, that place
is a dark whole of oblivion that leads me to utter despair.
I heard this long commentary by Joe Scarborough, conservative MSNBC
commentator on MSNBC's "Morning Joe," and that commentary provided me with
an articulation that I was unable to form myself. I offer it to you here:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036789/ns/msnbc-morning_joe/#50222624
Dan
Dan Herron
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Professor, Business Legal Studies
Miami University
Executive Secretary, Academy of Legal Studies in Business (www.alsb.org)
Director, Miami University Mock Trial Program (www.miamimocktrial.org)
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