Oh yes, oh yes, oh yes. This seems to be true despite (a) a syllabus that talks about taking notes; (b) repeated admonitions to take notes, and no matter what the class format: mini lecture, guest lecturer, dialogue, problem solving. For a while, they waited until I wrote something on the board--the one clue they seemed to get--but now even that doesn't seem to matter. i don't get it. But rest assured, it appears to be a national phenomenon....from a state school in NJ. Elaine
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From: Academy of Legal Studies in Business (ALSB) Talk on behalf of Anne Maureen Scarff
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For what it is worth I have theory that most students are just not cue-takers any more. Mine also arrive with PowerPoint slides on which they may make notes but a surprising number just sit there waiting for the commercial breaks. Occasionally I say something like " a wise student would be making a note of this" but the old verbal cues of stressing words, repeating particular case names or phrases does not seem to connect with them. we provide them with much more material that we ever received and they seem to think that is all they need.
Anne Maureen Scarff
School of Economics and Finance
University of Western Sydney
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Penrith South DC
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From: Academy of Legal Studies in Business (ALSB) Talk on behalf of Gershuny, Pam
Sent: Fri 9/03/2007 12:22 PM
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I do the same thing John. I provide the powerpoint slides without a video lecture so they can bring them in to take notes. In addition, this is the first semester that I have also made my lectures available in a video format in a small corner of the powerpoints (camtasia studio software and a webcam)
I ask them to take notes, tell them I test on lecture material, and they still just sit there.
Wassup w/dat?
Pamela Gershuny, J.D., M.B.A.
Assistant Professor of Business Law
Department of Accounting and MIS
Harrison College of Business (AACSB accredited)
Southeast Missouri State University
Cape Girardeau, MO 63701
(573) 651-2097 office
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From: Academy of Legal Studies in Business (ALSB) Talk [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of John Allison {allisonj}
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I've also observed a steep decline in note-taking over the years. I even post my slides on Blackboard before class, urge them to print them and bring them to class to take notes on.
John
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Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 7:14 PM
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Hi Keith and everyone,
I don't see them taking notes either. It is Very frustrating.
Pam
Pamela Gershuny, J.D., M.B.A.
Assistant Professor of Business Law
Department of Accounting and MIS
Harrison College of Business (AACSB accredited)
Southeast Missouri State University
Cape Girardeau, MO 63701
(573) 651-2097 office
(573) 651-2992 fax
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Website http://cstl-hcb.semo.edu/gershuny
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From: Academy of Legal Studies in Business (ALSB) Talk [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Keith A Maxwell
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 7:10 PM
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Subject: Taking Notes, Not (much)
ALSBers,
In the last several years I have noticed that students these days seem not to take notes in class as much as those in the past. Have others observed this as well, and if so do you have a theory as to why it might be? I have thought that it might be because of my teaching style, which tends to be more of a dialogue (or even a "polylogue" at times) and more difficult for students to find nuggets to write down. However, students in the past did take notes under the same circumstances (I've been in a rut for years). Even during my "mini-lectures" I notice only a few students writing anything down these days. Geez, could it be that they just think old folks like me (and Dan) never say anything worth noting. Please tell me it's not!
Curmudgeonly yours,
Keith
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Keith A. Maxwell
Director, Business Leadership Program (Spring 2007)
Professor of Legal Studies and Ethics
Nat S. and Marian W. Rogers Professor Emeritus
School of Business and Leadership
University of Puget Sound
Tacoma, WA 98416
Office Phone: 253.879.3703
www.ups.edu/faculty/maxwell/home.htm
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