Yes. Very few people can actually train and practice enough to be accurate enough with a handgun to really use it effectively for defense. Those who want to arm everybody are simply deluded.
John R. Allison
The Spence Centennial Professor of Business, and
Professor of Intellectual Property
McCombs School of Business
University of Texas at Austin
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From: Academy of Legal Studies in Business (ALSB) Talk [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Suzy Rogers
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 12:51 PM
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Subject: Re: Newtown
I can think of a lot which is wrong about this idea of arming teachers as a good way to deal with the problem, but aside from the obvious, do you really think in a time when a lot of teachers can't even get basic school supplies unless they buy them themselves, that the government would ever fund training and arming them?
And take a look at your colleagues. Seriously, are you going to be happy with these people all toting heat??
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From: Academy of Legal Studies in Business (ALSB) Talk [[log in to unmask]] on behalf of Kurt Schulzke [[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 12:41 PM
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Subject: Re: Newtown
Hi Dan,
My heart, like yours, goes out to all affected by this terrible tragedy. It is so hard to deal with the pointless, violent passing of anyone, but especially innocent little children. It is also a natural tendency at times like these to respond emotionally, to try to do something, anything in an effort to prevent similar occurrences.
In an effort to get more reliable information than that generally available through media sources, I had a long conversation yesterday with a SWAT team member who is responsible for coordinating the local response to events like that in Newtown.
First, he noted that at this stage of the investigation, reliable information is too scant to support policy-making. He is waiting to read the official after-incident report, because what is filtered to the public by the media is most often inaccurate and always incomplete. For example, he has doubts about the reports that the gunman gained entrance to the school by shooting through a security door with an "assault rifle." Typical assault rifles (assuming a typical secure door) are incapable of inflicting that kind of damage quickly enough to get through such a door before law enforcement arrives. For that, one typically needs higher-caliber weapons and special-purpose armor-piercing ammunition.
Second, however, in generic terms, he observed that TIME is the key variable in saving lives once this kind of thing begins. There is typically no way to negotiate with one who has resolved to begin this kind of killing spree. And there is no way for law enforcement to respond quickly enough to prevent multiple deaths once the shooting begins. No police force is capable of either preventing such killers from getting weapons or from inflicting mass casualties, no matter what kind of "gun control" laws are officially on the books. Thus, the best defense is a good offense: administrators and/or teachers should be armed and trained to respond with real firepower, on the spot.
Finally, he noted that when he delivers this kind of advice to school administrators, the response is routinely a genuinely-motivated but too-often fatal mantra, "But our school is a gun-free zone." So, supposedly, were airliners until September 11, 2001.
For my part, until I see the after-incident report on Newtown, I plan to withhold judgment on the hows and whys of what occurred there and how to reduce the likelihood of it happening elsewhere. Now is a time for comforting those mourning the loss of friends and family.
Kind regards,
Kurt S. Schulzke, JD, CPA, CFE
Associate Professor of Accounting & Business Law Director - Law, Ethics & Regulation Corporate Governance Center Kennesaw State University
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My research: http://ssrn.com/author=804023
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From: "Elaine Ingulli" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 12:45:10 PM
Subject: Re: Newtown
Dan,
Thank you for this link.
I don't think the emotional impact of Newtown has much to do with your being a parent: I don't have any children (hence no grandchildren), but truthfully this hit me harder than any of the other horrific events of recent years. I, like, you, have not been able to come to grips with it, but have recognized my own reaction in intermittent welling up of tears. It's both very simply "horrible" and at the same time complex (how to take that meaningful action, etc.; I so value community--so how do I understand something that a seemingly strong "community" couldn't prevent?). But that value made me feel better, today, just seeing your words and listening to the link.
Elaine Ingulli
Professor of Business Law
Local Negotiator, SFT
Richard Stockton College of New Jersey
(609)652-4304
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From: Academy of Legal Studies in Business (ALSB) Talk [[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Herron, Daniel J. Dr. [[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 12:09 PM
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Subject: Newtown
Dear ALSB'er's,
As the ALSB Executive Secretary, I refrain often from commenting on ALSBTALK about any issue that is remotely political, contentious, or argumentative, even in the least degree possible. As a father of two, and grandfather of four, including my 6 year old first grader gradnson, Jack, I've been experiencing a fundamental shaking of my entire core being as soon as I heard, late Friday night, about the Newtown tragedy. I have been trying to put into coherent thoughts my own reaction. But, each time I go to that place in my mind, trying to comprehend this event, that place is a dark whole of oblivion that leads me to utter despair.
I heard this long commentary by Joe Scarborough, conservative MSNBC commentator on MSNBC's "Morning Joe," and that commentary provided me with an articulation that I was unable to form myself. I offer it to you here: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036789/ns/msnbc-morning_joe/#50222624
Dan
Dan Herron
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Professor, Business Legal Studies
Miami University
Executive Secretary, Academy of Legal Studies in Business (www.alsb.org) Director, Miami University Mock Trial Program (www.miamimocktrial.org)
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