Well,  kids on booze is a smaller problem than kids on video games. 


On Dec 17, 2012, at 2:50 PM, Kurt Schulzke <[log in to unmask]>
 wrote:

> It is a straw man in this forum because no one here has suggested it.
> 
> Alan Strudler raises an interesting point about violent video games. What
> about alcohol, which kills, maims and sickens to death many more Americans
> (and American families) each year than do guns? If we are serious about
> regulating or eliminating what kills, surely alcohol should be at the top
> of our list.
> 
> Kurt S. Schulzke, JD, CPA, CFE 
> Associate Professor of Accounting & Business Law 
> Director - Law, Ethics & Regulation 
> Corporate Governance Center 
> Kennesaw State University 
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> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Academy of Legal Studies in Business (ALSB) Talk
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of John Allison
> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 2:38 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Newtown
> 
> No straw man.  Some do suggest that.  I'm specifically talking about
> teachers, professors, and administrators.
> 
> John R. Allison
> The Spence Centennial Professor of Business, and
> Professor of Intellectual Property
> McCombs School of Business
> University of Texas at Austin
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> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Academy of Legal Studies in Business (ALSB) Talk
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Kurt Schulzke
> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 1:28 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Newtown
> 
> Ah. And now the straw men appear. I don't recall anyone even suggesting
> that everyone should be armed.
> 
> Kurt S. Schulzke, JD, CPA, CFE
> Associate Professor of Accounting & Business Law Director - Law, Ethics &
> Regulation Corporate Governance Center Kennesaw State University 
> + 1770-423-6379 (O)
> + 1404-861-5729 (C)
> http://coles.kennesaw.edu/centers/corporate-governance/
> My research: http://ssrn.com/author=804023
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Academy of Legal Studies in Business (ALSB) Talk
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of John Allison
> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 2:23 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Newtown
> 
> Yes.  Very few people can actually train and practice enough to be
> accurate enough with a handgun to really use it effectively for defense.
> Those who want to arm everybody are simply deluded.
> 
> John R. Allison
> The Spence Centennial Professor of Business, and Professor of Intellectual
> Property McCombs School of Business University of Texas at Austin
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Academy of Legal Studies in Business (ALSB) Talk
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Suzy Rogers
> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 12:51 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Newtown
> 
> I can think of a lot which is wrong about this idea of arming teachers as
> a good way to deal with the problem, but aside from the obvious, do you
> really think in a time when a lot of teachers can't even get basic school
> supplies unless they buy them themselves, that the government would ever
> fund training and arming them?
> 
> And take a look at your colleagues.  Seriously, are you going to be happy
> with these people all toting heat??
> ________________________________________
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> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 12:41 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Newtown
> 
> Hi Dan,
> 
> My heart, like yours, goes out to all affected by this terrible tragedy.
> It is so hard to deal with the pointless, violent passing of anyone, but
> especially innocent little children. It is also a natural tendency at
> times like these to respond emotionally, to try to do something, anything
> in an effort to prevent similar occurrences.
> 
> In an effort to get more reliable information than that generally
> available through media sources, I had a long conversation yesterday with
> a SWAT team member who is responsible for coordinating the local response
> to events like that in Newtown.
> 
> First, he noted that at this stage of the investigation, reliable
> information is too scant to support policy-making. He is waiting to read
> the official after-incident report, because what is filtered to the public
> by the media is most often inaccurate and always incomplete. For example,
> he has doubts about the reports that the gunman gained entrance to the
> school by shooting through a security door with an "assault rifle."
> Typical assault rifles (assuming a typical secure door) are incapable of
> inflicting that kind of damage quickly enough to get through such a door
> before law enforcement arrives. For that, one typically needs
> higher-caliber weapons and special-purpose armor-piercing ammunition.
> 
> Second, however, in generic terms, he observed that TIME is the key
> variable in saving lives once this kind of thing begins. There is
> typically no way to negotiate with one who has resolved to begin this kind
> of killing spree. And there is no way for law enforcement to respond
> quickly enough to prevent multiple deaths once the shooting begins. No
> police force is capable of either preventing such killers from getting
> weapons or from inflicting mass casualties, no matter what kind of "gun
> control" laws are officially on the books. Thus, the best defense is a
> good offense: administrators and/or teachers should be armed and trained
> to respond with real firepower, on the spot.
> 
> Finally, he noted that when he delivers this kind of advice to school
> administrators, the response is routinely a genuinely-motivated but
> too-often fatal mantra, "But our school is a gun-free zone." So,
> supposedly, were airliners until September 11, 2001.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> For my part, until I see the after-incident report on Newtown, I plan to
> withhold judgment on the hows and whys of what occurred there and how to
> reduce the likelihood of it happening elsewhere. Now is a time for
> comforting those mourning the loss of friends and family.
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Kurt S. Schulzke, JD, CPA, CFE
> Associate Professor of Accounting & Business Law Director - Law, Ethics &
> Regulation Corporate Governance Center Kennesaw State University
> + 1770-423-6379 (O)
> + 1404-861-5729 (C)
> http://coles.kennesaw.edu/centers/corporate-governance/
> My research: http://ssrn.com/author=804023
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Elaine Ingulli" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 12:45:10 PM
> Subject: Re: Newtown
> 
> Dan,
> 
> Thank you for this link.
> I don't think the emotional impact of Newtown has much to do with your
> being a parent: I don't have any children (hence no grandchildren), but
> truthfully this hit me harder than any of the other horrific events of
> recent years. I, like, you, have not been able to come to grips with it,
> but have recognized my own reaction in intermittent welling up of tears.
> It's both very simply "horrible" and at the same time complex (how to take
> that meaningful action, etc.; I so value community--so how do I understand
> something that a seemingly strong "community" couldn't prevent?). But that
> value made me feel better, today, just seeing your words and listening to
> the link.
> 
> Elaine Ingulli
> 
> Professor of Business Law
> Local Negotiator, SFT
> Richard Stockton College of New Jersey
> (609)652-4304
> ________________________________________
> From: Academy of Legal Studies in Business (ALSB) Talk
> [[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Herron, Daniel J. Dr.
> [[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 12:09 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Newtown
> 
> Dear ALSB'er's,
> 
> As the ALSB Executive Secretary, I refrain often from commenting on
> ALSBTALK about any issue that is remotely political, contentious, or
> argumentative, even in the least degree possible.  As a father of two, and
> grandfather of four, including my 6 year old first grader gradnson, Jack,
> I've been experiencing a fundamental shaking of my entire core being as
> soon as I heard, late Friday night, about the Newtown tragedy.  I have
> been trying to put into coherent thoughts my own reaction.  But, each time
> I go to that place in my mind, trying to comprehend this event, that place
> is a dark whole of oblivion that leads me to utter despair.
> 
> I heard this long commentary by Joe Scarborough, conservative MSNBC
> commentator on MSNBC's "Morning Joe," and that commentary provided me with
> an articulation that I was unable to form myself.  I offer it to you here:
> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036789/ns/msnbc-morning_joe/#50222624
> 
> Dan
> 
> Dan Herron
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> Professor, Business Legal Studies
> Miami University
> Executive Secretary, Academy of Legal Studies in Business (www.alsb.org)
> Director, Miami University Mock Trial Program (www.miamimocktrial.org)