My personal experience as law review editor was similar to Lynda's--no faculty involvement in decision making.  Likewise, I have never detected any faculty involvement in decision making at the law reviews where I've published.  I'm afraid that this is an argument that would be very difficult to substantiate.

The main thing about getting into a top-20 law review is that it is incredibly competitive.  There are far fewer slots available per issue than in good journals in other disciplines.  It's even difficult to publish in a top 35 law review.  Here at UT-Austin, if it's a law review, it must be among the 22 or 23 in our top 20 to be an "A" publication.

John

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From: Academy of Legal Studies in Business (ALSB) Talk [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Oswald, Lynda
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 11:59 AM
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Subject: Re: Legal Studies scholarship information needed

I think we need to be very careful about using the faculty advisor as evidence of "peer review" on many law reviews (in the sense that our colleagues would define). I cannot tell you who the faculty advisor was from my days on the Michigan Law Review -- we had little or no contact with him or her, and we certainly we sought little, if any, input, from faculty members on review & selection of articles. (When I think about our arrogance in hindsight, it is stunning but not, I fear, an aberration among law review ed boards). And if any faculty member has ever been involved in review & selection of one of my articles at a law review I've published in, I've been completely unaware of it. Not to say it didn't happen -- but I was never informed or made aware of it in any way if it did.

I think relying on faculty advisors as evidence of peer review is risky, particularly since any such review is not blind. However, Ginny Maurer has a much better argument that law review editors can serve as "peers" for this process - -but I would let her make it, since she is so much more eloquent than me.

Lynda Oswald
Professor Business Law
Stephen M. Ross Business School
University of Michigan
Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1234

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From: Academy of Legal Studies in Business (ALSB) Talk on behalf of White, Nancy Jean
Sent: Mon 10/1/2007 12:10 PM
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Subject: Re: Legal Studies scholarship information needed



The faculty member tried that but it did not fly. She even got letters
to this effect.

Nancy J. White
Department of Finance and Law
Sloan 329
Central Michigan University

CMU Webpage: http://faculty.cba.cmich.edu/webs/white2nj/
Office phone: 989-774-1842
Dept. of Finance and Law fax: 989-774-6456
Email: [log in to unmask]

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Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 12:01 PM
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Subject: Re: Legal Studies scholarship information needed

Law Reviews always have a faculty advisor and often a panel of faculty
(Editorial Board) who review the articles that the student editors
prepare for publication. Shouldn't this be evidence of 'peer review'?


Roxane DeLaurell JD, LLM, PhD
Assistant Professor Legal Studies
Accounting and Legal Studies
College of Charleston
Beatty Center 424
5 Liberty Street
Charleston, SC 29401

843.953.5358


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Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 11:51 AM
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Subject: Re: Legal Studies scholarship information needed

What a travesty for your colleague.  Ginny Maurer actually helped me
immensely with this issue by pointing me to the AACSB definition of
"peer
reviewed" which technically does not state that the review must be by
other
faculty or practitioners, but rather by "expert", which could include
students.  I suggest we all review that standard.  I know at my college
the
Associate Dean has placed the "meaning of peer review" on the ad hoc (no
Legal Studies representation) Intellectual Contributions Task Force.  It
is
clear where she is heading!

Best wishes, Kathleen

Kathleen Lacey
Professor of Legal Studies in Business
Faculty Director of Ukleja Center for Ethical Leadership
Director Legal Studies in Business Program
College of Business Administration
Calif, State University, Long Beach
Long Beach, CA 90840

Phone:  (562) 985-5668
FAX:     (562) 541-2193

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From: Academy of Legal Studies in Business (ALSB) Talk
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Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 7:12 AM
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Subject: FW: Legal Studies scholarship information needed

Hello,
First, I did not send this directly to Carol - did I miss her email
here?

Anyway, this has been a MAJOR problem at CMU. A faculty member did not
get tenure because she published articles ONLY in law reviews and this
despite we are a union shop and the bylaws said law reviews are
acceptable. The department said that since law reviews are not peer
reviewed, but student reviewed, they do not count for tenure at all. A
slightly different explanation was given up the chain or review for the
tenure denial.

On the other hand, the college did count them toward the AQ/PQ
requirements of AACSB. In our college just because something counts for
AQ status does not automatically mean it counts as a quality article for
tenure/promotion purposes.

Nancy J. White
Department of Finance and Law
Sloan 329
Central Michigan University

CMU Webpage: http://faculty.cba.cmich.edu/webs/white2nj/
Office phone: 989-774-1842
Dept. of Finance and Law fax: 989-774-6456
Email: [log in to unmask]

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From: Academy of Legal Studies in Business (ALSB) Talk
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Carol Bast
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 8:30 AM
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Subject: Legal Studies scholarship information needed

Linda Samuels and I are researching a paper on Legal Studies
scholarship.  One of the motivations for the paper is that some of our
ALSB colleagues have to fight this battle each year, usually to have
business colleagues recognize law reviews as scholarship.  We envision
the paper as partly descriptive and educational in that ALSB colleagues
who need it can point to it as a statement that law reviews are
generally considered scholarship.

We would appreciate receiving your school's method of evaluating Legal
Studies scholarship.  Please post it least to me and to Lucien Dhooge
(at "Lucien Dhooge" <[log in to unmask]>), who is collecting materials
on legal studies scholarship on behalf of ALSB.  If you need it, a fax
number where I can receive documents is 866 774-6409 (a toll free
number).

Thank you.