That's right. Building revenue generating programs in ENG and/or
collaborations with the same kind of thing in SCA is a very good way to
strengthen the case for existing graduate programs.

I'm not certain that retired ENG faculty would be eligible to work for
Miami in the manner some might be imagining here. That gets into all sorts
of policy issues and will need to be investigated rather than assumed. But
that's not necessary to make the argument that Oris it talking about. Nor
is it necessary to imagine participation by current faculty beyond design
and approval of the program.

I met with Susan Ewing yesterday to have her catch me up on what she has
been discussing with cris and a group of you. We're to meet again. I'll
report on those conversations later.

Keith

On 12/6/12 10:10 AM, "Roley, Brian" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

>One take away I had from that meeting with Jim Oris was that an MFA lo
>res program might be seen as a revenue producing program to offset the
>"cost" of the departments MA and PHD programs. But that the revenue,
>flowing back to CAS (in the case of Eric's proposal, anyway) rather than
>directly to the department, it would be important to have some sort of
>understanding with the dean. Internally too, the more such a program is
>perceived to be tied to the creative writing program long term, the more
>likely it is to help justify the "cost" of our MA students funding into
>the future. Thus, I like cris's ideas about employing people with a
>connection to our department/program in any lo res program, if feasible.
>
>Brian
>
>
>________________________________________
>From: Miami University Creative Writing Faculty
>[[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Cheek, Christopher F. Dr.
>[[log in to unmask]]
>Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 8:57 PM
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: low-res staffing thought
>
>Hi all,
>
>i was making dinner and thinking about the conundrum of how to staff the
>low-res MFA, at least partly. The fact that none of us (or few of us)
>have, as yet, expressed an interest in working as mentors - although
>there might also be other roles we might perform . .
>
>we DO have fully qualified fiction and poetry ex-full professors. It's
>likely that they would not want the work, but they might??
>
>we also DO have several talented and well-evaluated adjuncts, with MA
>credentials (Joe, Tom, Zack, Matt et al . . . yes i know it's a bunch of
>guys so with luck we could bring Helen Lanier and Sarah-Rose Nordgren and
>Ellen Elder into the picture)  . .  some of those poeple could be great
>for either the low-res MFA CW and / or the low-res MA Intermedia . . .
>this could be a great way to get them more meaningful remuneration??
>
>
>partly, together with Brian, i witnessed the cogs whirring in Jim Oris's
>brain when he mentioned the low-res MFA at this evening's grad committee
>meeting.
>
>as awkward as these low-res ma's might seem to us all right now we will
>do a great service to our existing MA students if we make serious efforts
>to open up at least one revenue-generating initiative . . and Eric M. is
>also do invaluable work developing and testing ways to teach writing and
>creativity online . .
>
>just thinking out loud
>
>
>cris