The 11 (10 minus 100 level) courses as I count them equal 30 credits. That leaves PW option open, easily. But why PW for the CW major any more than 321 323 or 422 after the 320/330/ 420/430 requirement uses 2 of the 3 in that group? I'd think another of that group could interest some majors more than PW. But some would like that PW option. PW is going to either become the dominant Eng major or split off altogether, it seems. Will PW accept CW courses as Lit will do. Hope so.
I do think the proposed minor may "save" CW.
David

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Subject: Re: major revision thoughts

This CW major looks good. One thing, there's no provision for students
to take a PW course or two -- do you think it would be to our benefit
to permit that? I suspect it would. Cathy

On Dec 10, 2012, at 9:45 PM, "Cheek, Christopher F. Dr."
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> Hi everyone,
>
> i'm cutting and pasting Andrew Hebard's proposal to revise the Lit major. It's one of several on the Lit major revising wiki. It represents a fair summary of the thinking in Lit though. All of the six proposals posted are written to 36 Credit hours. They all specify 298 and the majority split at the 1800 time frame.
>
>
> 36 Credit hours
> 1)    Eng 298
>
> 2)    At least 2 Pre-1800 courses.
>
> 3)    At least 2 Post-1800 courses.
>
> 4)    At least 2 400 level courses.
>
> 5)    Capstone
>
> 6)    Students are allowed to count 3 courses from Creative Writing or Professional Writing towards the major.
>
> 7)    No more than 2 100 level course can count toward the major
>
>
> ________________________________________________
>
>
> CW could be rewritten along such lines:
>
> 36 Credit Hours
>
> Eng 226 (3 credit hours)
>
> CONTEMPORARY WRITING
> One of these:
>
> Eng 123
> Eng 124
>
> One of these:
>
>    • ENG 311 Contemporary Fiction (3)
>    • ENG 312 Contemporary Poetry (3)
>
> ENGLISH CAPSTONE
>
> One of these:
>
>    • ENG 460 Issues in Creative Writing (3)
>    • ENG 495 Capstone in Literature (3)
>
> NINE ADDITIONAL HOURS OF CREATIVE WRITING AT 300- AND 400-LEVELS
> From these courses:
>
>    • ENG 320 Creative Writing: Short Story (3)
>    • ENG 321 Creative Writing: Literary Marketplace (3)
>    • ENG 323 Creative Non-Fiction (3)
>    • ENG 330 Creative Writing: Poetry (3)
>    • ENG 420 Advanced Undergraduate Fiction Workshop (3)
>    • ENG 422 Creative Writing: Screenwriting (3)
>    • ENG 430 Advanced Undergraduate Poetry Workshop (3)
> Note: (1) ENG 320 is the prerequisite for ENG 420; ENG 330 is the prerequisite for ENG 430. Students must take an intermediate and advanced course in the same genre, poetry or fiction. (2) Courses may be taken a second time. Repeat credits WILL NOT count toward the major requirement of nine (9) hours of creative writing courses, but will count toward the 128 hours required for a degree.
>
>
> Eng 298
>
> At least 2 Pre-1800 Literature Classes
>
> At least 2 Post-1800 courses.