Update is that cris met with Patrick who thinks that a cap is illegal
in the college. cris is going to speak with Allen Winkler and I
imagine he'll report back to us.

On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 3:02 PM, Cathy Wagner <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Hi Keith, we were worried about getting flooded with students, as
> apparently happened the last time a minor was offered. cris was just
> in my office and we talked about asking the undergrad adviser to
> monitor enrollment in the minor and cut it off at 25 per year, but
> keep track of interest, and we could change or remove the cap later.
> No portfolios, that sounds like a nightmare.
>
> I think cris is meeting with Patrick about cap issues now.
>
> On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 2:42 PM, Tuma, Keith <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> I'd noticed that and wondered about it but was distracted by other matters
>> in Lux--sorry.
>>
>> I would remove the language about the cap for the moment and write to Nancy
>> Burnside saying that you withdraw that and also that the department will
>> monitor to see how many students are interested in the first few years and
>> submit a plan for a cap later if need be. I don't know if the department
>> will have to vote on this again--was the cap an issue when it was approved?
>> Consult with Mao and Murphy.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 2:30 PM, cheek, cris <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>
>>> HI everybody,
>>>
>>> i'd appreciate how to handle Dr. Winkler's question about the Minor having
>>> a cap. It seems like a lose-lose moment. Any alternative wording to that
>>> question is most welcome. I would like to get back to him asap. My sense is
>>> that we will not be able to enforce a cap . . unless we do so by portfolio
>>> admission and that in itself might be too complex and too much work.
>>>
>>> IF we don't go with a cap how to describe the problem of overburdening
>>> ourselves . . OR do we simply say there will high demand? Tricky.
>>>
>>> Thanks for the help,
>>>
>>> cris
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: Burnside, Nancy <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Date: Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 11:20 AM
>>> Subject: ENG - Creative Writing revis'd Maj and New Minor
>>> To: cris cheek <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Cc: LuMing Mao ENG <[log in to unmask]>, Debra Morner ENG
>>> <[log in to unmask]>
>>>
>>>
>>> Cris,
>>>
>>> I have attached a memo from Allan Winkler regarding the ENG Creative
>>> Writing revised major and new minor.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Nancy
>>>
>>> --
>>> Nancy Lee Burnside
>>> College of Arts and Science
>>> Dean's Office
>>> 100 Bishop Circle
>>> Room 143 Upham Hall
>>> 513-529-1234
>>>
>>