Two items, linked and separate.
1) Kerry just sent along the agenda for the meeting, in which he states
that hiring proposals will be coming from all three programs. I know
for certain that Mary Fuller is retiring before next year, with Helane
Androne (from Middletown) taking over as head of OWP. I believe that
Jean Lutz is also planning to retire, quite possibly before next year as
well.
2) I've just returned from acting Dean Calahan's presentation to be the
Dean, where I spoke to a couple of our colleagues in Lit. I think there
would be real support for the idea of a Lit/CW hire, where the watchword
in term of the new form that Phyllis has mandate is justifying the hire in
terms of need, etc, not just replacement. A new category within ethnic
literature would be Indigenous Studies. That couple with someone who
could teach one of the genres in CW that we currently have trouble
staffing--Creative Nonfiction, Screenwriting, for example--would, in my
opinion, stand a good chance of succeeding at the department and college
level.
Having said that, it would certainly need to be presented as in second
place to a lecturer in fiction. But I certainly feel that such a case
could and should be made.
Eric
On 11/10/11 4:42 PM, "Schloss, David Mr." <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>Dear Margaret,
>
>That's the Right Stuff! See my rant on similar themes, but a mite less
>polite. We're drowning rats (or is that, mice?) fighting over crumbs
>while the powers that be luxuriate and laugh at us like (greek) gods for
>their sport... I'm glad I'm retiring in 2015. I've had about enough of
>this cringing for crumbs, and fighting amongst programs. If we'd only
>unionized back when... At least the population supports the unions now.
>
>Rabble Rouser
>
>________________________________________
>From: Miami University Creative Writing Faculty
>[[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Luongo, Margaret M. Ms.
>[[log in to unmask]]
>Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 4:16 PM
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: Hiring
>
>So, we are afraid of PW getting the only tenure track hire in the
>department, after they repeatedly reassured us last year that they
>wouldn't be seeking any tenure-track hires? Maybe we should remind them
>of that. It's true Huatong left, but I think everyone knew she was gone
>before all of the PW paperwork went through. Not sure about that, though.
>At any rate, they reassured us they wouldn't need to hire any new faculty
>to support their major. They went further, and said that they would only
>allow the major to grow as much as it could be supported by the resources
>they already had.
>
>We have to propose a tenure track position, so that the department can
>rank our request higher than theirs? Isn't it possible that the
>department could just vote their proposal down? Or just rank the lecture
>position higher than their tenure-track position? Aren't proposing the
>lecture position because we don't think the department will get any
>tenure-track hires?
>
>I see us losing if we propose both a lectureship and this hybrid
>position. It doesn't really make sense to say, yes, we need the
>lectureship and the hybrid thing. What if we end up with the hybrid
>thing? I'm open to discussing this. I just have a lot of questions.
>
>
>
>Margaret Luongo
>Associate Professor, Creative Writing
>Department of English
>356 Bachelor Hall
>Oxford, OH 45056
>513-529-5221
>________________________________________
>From: Miami University Creative Writing Faculty
>[[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Goodman, Eric
>[[log in to unmask]]
>Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 3:53 PM
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: Hiring
>
>Ah, I wish I'd known about this. There's been a good deal of discourse
>on the Lit list I've also been reading, and I'm not sure that the two
>I've mentioned, a lecturer, and the hybrid, are mutually exclusive.
>
>Part of the issue, is that there needs to be tenure track positions put
>forward by CW, perhaps, and Lit, certainly, otherwise only PW/Comp Rhet
>will be proposing one.
>
>From: "Cheek, Christopher F. Dr."
><[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
>Reply-To: Faculty
><[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
>Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2011 15:46:36 -0500
>To: Faculty
><[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
>Subject: Fwd: Hiring
>
>imho and in support of Margaret and David here, i did inform the LIt
>cohort of our decision yesterday morning . in response to Kaara's question
>
>x
>
>
>c
>
>Begin forwarded message:
>
>From: cris cheek <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
>Subject: Re: Hiring
>Date: November 10, 2011 2:35:26 PM EST
>To: "Peterson, Kaara L. Dr."
><[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
>Cc:
>"[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>"
><[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
>
>Breaking cover here, as one who is on the Lit elist and a member of the
>CW cohort .
>
>i can confirm that we decided at our CW cohort meeting yesterday morning
>to press forwards with a request to convert the VAP position, currently
>occupied by Jody Bates, into a lectureship - IF we can possibly do
>so. We have also been advised that it might be easier to get another VAP
>. . . but i cannot speak to that.
>
>Under those circumstances it makes good sense for Literature to identify
>its most pressing need. As an insider - outsider to the core Literature
>faculty (i teach Lit classes but that is not my foregrounded profile) i
>would support the needs outlined by Tobias here.
>
>In an ideal world a hybrid hire might seem attractive. However, this is
>far from an ideal world.
>
>
>
>cris
>
>
>On Nov 10, 2011, at 2:11 PM, Peterson, Kaara L. Dr. wrote:
>
>To follow up on Andrew and Tobias, are we even absolutely certain what CW
>as a group's priorities are for this hire? Are *they* looking for a
>specific sub-genre, a tenure-track person, etc.?
>
>If the point is primarily to get a hire out of the dean for the good of
>the whole dept but really primarily for CW, then couldn't we make a
>stronger, united case for a hire if CW tells us first what they want
>prioritized and then we just simply throw all of our support behind it,
>benefitting as we may?
>
>all best, Kaara
>________________________________________
>From: English Dept Literature Faculty
>[[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>]
>On Behalf Of Hebard, Andrew Dr.
>[[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>]
>Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 1:40 PM
>To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Re: Hiring
>
>I also think that a hybrid position would be great, but am also a bit
>worried about how we are going to cover periods that the current
>organization of our major requires us to cover. A joint CW/Lit hire means
>that we are likely to hire someone working on 20th century literature, a
>period that we have pretty well covered. I am not saying that we
>shouldn't do this, but am wondering how it addresses our current staffing
>needs in literature.
>
>Best,
>
>Andrew
>
>On 11/10/11 1:29 PM, "Morgan, Susan J. Dr."
><[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>
>I absolutely agree with Mary Jean about the best shot.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: English Dept Literature Faculty
>[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Corbett, Mary Jean
>Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 1:16 PM
>To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Re: Hiring
>
>I think "they" stand a much better chance if they include "us" in a more
>than perfunctory way...a cross-program hire is perhaps our collective best
>shot!
>mjc
>
>
>On 11/10/11 1:10 PM, "Kaara Peterson"
><[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>
>Hi everyone,
>
>I can vote for a CW hire still taking priority this year, however they
>want to
>frame it for their hire. If we benefit, great.
>
>all best, Kaara
>
>________________________________________
>From: English Dept Literature Faculty
>[[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>]
>On
>Behalf Of Morgan, Susan J. Dr.
>[[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>]
>Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 12:50 PM
>To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Re: Hiring
>
>Hi Tobias and everyone,
>
>Please do read that ©øtemplate©÷ about hiring from Phyllis via Kerry,
>that I
>sent earlier.
>It is explicit that replacing someone will not be an effective
>argument, and
>that we need to produce a new statement, with some kind of evidence.
>
>I would say that so far we have, in order:
>CW/ethnic American literature, particularly Latino/a or African/American
>literature (not exactly as a subfield, but Tobais©ös point is good).
>Long eighteenth century, with transatlantic
>Medieval
>
>And I plan to submit something Monday. Moreover, surely the dept.
>meeting is
>for discussion, not everything already set beforehand.
>Susan
>
>From: English Dept Literature Faculty
>[mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>On Behalf Of Menely, Tobias Coyote Dr.
>Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 11:31 AM
>To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Re: Hiring
>
>I would argue against overly specific hybrid positions. I think it's
>better to
>identify a broad and legible field/period and then add desirable
>subfields
>instead of boxing ourselves in with an overly specific combination. For
>example, the number of people doing 'transatlantic' eighteenth century
>studies
>is much smaller than the number of people working in the long eighteenth
>century, so why not seek a hire in the eighteenth century, with
>Romanticism
>and/or transatlanticism as a desirable subfield? Similarly, why not
>search for
>a fiction writer, but add as a desirable subfield ethnic American
>literature?
>
>Tobias
>
>
>
>On Nov 10, 2011, at 10:48 AM, Corbett, Mary Jean wrote:
>
>
>That©ös what I had in mind, esp the two former...mjc
>
>
>On 11/10/11 9:46 AM, "Morgan, Susan J. Dr."
><[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]><x-msg://141/morgansj@muoh
>io.edu>> wrote:
>
>
>Eric has just pointed out that some sort of lit/cw hire would be
>fabulous if
>the field were latina/a or african american lit, perhaps even creative
>non-fiction, though the latter may be being too precise. S
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