Sorry for the belated reply. I've been out of town and away from email. 

I agree with David and Margaret. I think we should be more open to these requests. In story collections too, it's not only acceptable for parts to be previously published in journals and such, but preferable. It's like free publicity. It genreates interest. It hopefully will link to the novel online. It can generate pre publicity interest. and the prestige of the publications can help garner reviews and to push them in positive directions.

Mayor of the Roses had had stories published in a number of well known journals. When New York publishers try to get chapters and stories of upcoming books placed in magazines shortly before publication to generate interest, those magazines only get first publication rights. 

I think the story collection precedents are relevant to the issue of novels--novels are often cobbled together from stories, often previously published. Louise Erdrich is an example of someone who does this frequently.

To me, the longer the excerpt, the more problematic it might be--but it would have to be a pretty large percentage of the book. How much I don't know.

BTW, if we did open this up a bit, it would be important that the author retain full rights to the piece, so that she/he can see it to us.

Best

Brian



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With this in mind, I think we should be more open about such requests. If it were up to me, I'd say Yes to that ms. inquiry.

David

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It's common for portions of novels and novellas to be published in journals before publication of the whole. Practically speaking, I don't think this will matter. People who have read and enjoyed the previously published portions would be more likely to buy the book--which is the reason for publishing excerpts in the first place. And as David points out, the thing as a whole is "new." If all four sections had been previously published, that might be a different matter--or maybe it wouldn't be. I think when we say "previously published work" we mean the entire book--published as a book--and not portions of the book.

--Margaret


Margaret Luongo
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Hello All,

As you know, one of the rules of our novella contest is that previously published works are not eligible. Today we have an email from someone asking if, given that rule, his novella is eligible for consideration. His novella consists of 4 sections. Three of these have been published as short stories. But the entire novella has not been published.

I think the only answer to this is that it’s not eligible. I think that also means that our rule is really this: “If any part of the novella has been published it cannot be entered in the contest.” Does that make sense? Otherwise we get into making a whole new series of rules about how much and what (or as what) and so on.

We should probably clarify our language.

Do any of you know of precedents in other contests elsewhere that I should be aware of?

Keith